Donald Trump's administration is after Julian Assange and it serves as a warning to us all

My understanding he aided and abetted Snowden in his illegal activities. Isn’t that some of the main issues? The claim is he is helping the “whistleblowers” to steal government documents by advice?

 

4 more years . Keep laughing.

 

Chelsea Manning ... who refuses to testify against Assange.

 

Sorry!! Yes it was actually Mangirl

But definitely worth being charged and tried in US courts.

 

That's the basis of the US extradition case. You can find Assange's communications with Manning online. Unless US prosecutors have more than what's been published the case seems really flimsy. Assange knowingly accepted the material, but he didn't help steal it, or reward Manning for stealing it.

 

Believe the courts should decide “flimsy” guessing they have evidence you and I have not seen.

 

I’d rather punish the Americans feeding classified material to wikkileaks than assange personally

Starting with that little pervert bradley manning

 

I said that right off the bat.

 

He has effectively told his DOJ to bring him here and try him.

Obama demurred. The Espionage Act is pure bullshit.

The Australian government does not support its own citizen, and is assisting his persecution and prosecution any way it can.

 

The whistleblowers will likely prevail.

 

Well, we do intend to punish the Americans who colluded with the Russians who hacked the DNC servers and supplied the information to Wikileaks

But you’ve been either denying or ignoring that for two years.

 

And Trump is the fountain of truth???

 

The Executive can prosecute him, he is free to make the defense, however it will be up to a jury to determine if he is a journalist or not. With that said, journalist too can not violate the espionage act.

 

Take it from me I am NOT defending Assange

But we need to tread carefully so as not to cross the threshold between keeping necessary state secrets and covering up bulldust and conversely we need to rightfully prosecute those who would put lives at risk by blabbing (I gather Trump is looped out of sensitive intelligence) and those who seek to uncover wrong doing

 

Indeed.

The really sad part of your post is the supposition that Trump is kept out of sensitive intelligence. Not that he seems especially interested.

It’s a pretty sad state of affairs ,and a reflection on Trump, that many people are either assuming or hoping that the dwindling number of competent people in the White House and the intelligence agencies are shielding the national interest from this immature, disloyal and incompetent President.

 

If you file a federal tax return and list your occupation as "journalist" you're a journalist.

If you file a federal tax return and list your occupation as "spy" then you're not a spy.

 

All the evidence points to seth rich as the person who exposed the DNC emails

And he has been punished by the clinton crime mob

 

Still beating that idiotic conspiracy theory?

 

Huh? Mueller conducted a two year investigation and found no Americans were involved. So not sure who you plan on punishing....why do you all continue to ignore the results of the Mueller investigation? No collusion, no conspiracy.....

 

He found that plenty of Americans were involved. Almost the entire Trump campaign was involved in one way or another.

Never before have members of a US Presidential campaign regularly met with agents of a rival nation’s intelligence services, or people associated with them in the middle of a Presidential election.

The Trump Tower meeting itself, is enough to make the collusion case. AFter all, it isn’t as if the Trump people weren’t active and eager to get Russian help and coordinate activities. That record is very clear on that.

 

1) can you point me to one indictment against the Trump campaign for conspiring with the Russians? Or even one line from the Mueller Report?

2) um...the Clinton folks regularly meet with Michael Steele. But again...point me ot where in the Mueller Report, his testimony, or one indictment where an American meet with a member of another nation's intel service.

Again, once again, you can't. You continue to ignore the reality of the Mueller investigation. You lost.

 

This may vary country by country, but in the US, there is no special exalted category of "journalist." Anyone can be one. Assange has the same rights as the New York Times to publish stolen classified information. The issue is of course, the person who actually stole the classified information, and since Obama pardoned Manning, it seems a dead issue.

 

Except Assange actually is getting jammed up on the accusation that he aided and abetted an actual hacking attempt by manning.
Which he did, manning already copped to that. That removes him from the journalist's protection, becoming an active participant

 

I don't get it either. If Assange helped Trump win, why go after him and not protect him?

 

The fact that collusion is not a chargeable crime does not mean that it did not happen. Indeed, the evidence in the report is overwhelming. Moreover, we have admissions from some of the parties involved that they conspired to meet with the Russians in order to get dirt on an opponent.

It’s one thing to meet with opposition research people.

It’s another to meet with people who identify themselves as agents or operatives for a country that is conducting a cyber war against the US. Especially in the middle of a Presidential election.

Whataboutism about Steele isn’t going to get it, so don’t bother.

When did the Clinton campaign ever invite Russian operatives into their campaign headquarters????