Donald Trump's Ego Is Going to Further Polarize American Politics

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by charleslb, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a joke! Guess you are now used to not having any leadership skills in a president after the last 8 years.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So that answers the question on who initiates the divisions between Americans. It's Obama. He hates the idea of a unified, color-blind America. He loves to split us up into tiny demographic groups and pit us against each other. That's what radicals do.

    He's such as piece of sh-t.
     
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    not hardly... the do nothing Congress got that name for a reason

    I am not sure why some republicans were so against the first black President

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    Set aside all the right versus left, conservative vs "progressive", and look at it from the simple perspective of morality and trust. Hilary is so utterly corrupt that every person with any bit of a moral spine would object to her. Hilary has proven she will abuse public office to benefit herself, there is absolutely no hint that she will suddenly take an oath of office seriously if she is President, but she will sell anything to the highest bidder if she benefits. Every person with any sense of country would object to her.
     
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    Don't know why you'd think I'd be so dumb as to not see this as a conservative vs. everyone else issue. The immorality is conservatives wasting so much effort trying to character assassinate Hillary. I've heard all the pretended scandals over the years. I've long ago gotten sick of listening to conservatives going on about Hillary. I've never been a fan of hers but those attacking her tend to repulse me so much.....
     
  6. charleslb

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    And Mr. Trump? Is he possessed of great moral substance? Not to go in for rhetorical overkill, but he appears to be utterly devoid of anything resembling good moral character. Well, Mr. Trump's makeup seems to be woefully wanting in the two traits that fundamentally make for ethical goodness, compassion and honesty. He exhibits no kindness or empathy; and no genuineness or sense of commitment to the truth, being a demagogue who insincerely embraces principles and holds himself forth as the advocate of a working class whose real interests he has no heartfelt interest whatsoever in. Well, everything about the man, his narcissism, his insensitivity, his amoral preoccupation with being a "winner", his sexism, his racism, his crudely capitalist mentality, in fact is all at odds with being a morally good human being. But unfortunately far-right folks apparently can only perceive the flaws in the character of "liberals".
     
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    LOL! All you've done here is recite a load of Trumpite rubbish. (Also, regarding the character issue, see my above reply)
     
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    Firstly, when our ruling class and its lackey president and government elect to perpetrate an avoidable, unnecessary, unjust, economically-motivated war knowing full well that a large number of innocent human beings will be killed in the course of it, the deaths of said noncombatants are not mere unintentional "collateral damage", they're an integral part of the equation of the criminal aggression that our ruling elite has freely and self-interestedly chosen to engage in.

    Secondly, even if I went along with your rationalization that the civilian death toll of our unjust wars is unintentional "collateral damage", the depraved indifference that makes our ruling class and political leaders okay with unjust wars that they know will entail massive "collateral damage" hardly makes them or this country significantly morally superior to the Islamist "terrorist" who tosses a grenade into a school bus or shoots up a nightclub.
     
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    Wow....With your 'justification', every government that ever launched a war(or fought one for defensive purposes) was in the wrong. IE: D-Day should not have happened, nor the Revolutionary War, etc. Since military defensive purposes have been outlawed by you now, you now also attempt to excuse the inexcusable: This war on civilian
    populations.

    That is officially where you stand, with these words. Not even a Libertarian would agree with your thesis. What would be more dangerous than Trump with the nuclear
    codes, would be you EVER near them or any official capacity. Because in the major litmus test of protecting our country you have just abdicated.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, yes, I know, Obama's lack of leadership and failure is always somebody else's fault.
     
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    I did not say it was not a partisan issue.

    What I did write as that Hilary's corruption is so deep it transcends partisan politics. A persons reaction to Hlary is all by itself an indicator of that persons moral character - supporters are corrupt and deceitful, opponents are not.
     
  12. Battle3

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    And yet every item is backed with either video of the "progressive" admitting to the fact, and/or emails from the "progressives" proving the fact, and/or speeches proving the fact.

    You better get up to speed. Things are moving fast, can't you keep up?
     
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    And the blind sheep just continue to follow the slick-talking shepherd to the slaughter house, blaming those who resist for dividing the flock.
     
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    Obama can't control republicans... your trying to say republicans refusal to work with the first black president from the get go is his fault is nonsense

    I am more then happy to blame Obama for things that are his fault and he had control over
     
  15. One Mind

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    Hell, since you do not understand who the ruling class it, this renders your entire OP as a rant from being disconnected.

    The ruling class is not the 1 percent. It is the one tenth of one percent, the robber barons, the families of the robber barons who have held various degrees of power since post civil war when this class arose.

    Trump is not in this one tenth of one percent. In fact, this group of robber barons will support Hillary because she supports their scheme, open borders free trade, that we have because this is what the robber barons demand from the politicians that they own. An interesting study would be to learn about the robber barons and FDR, who took them on, and cut their nut sacks off. He yanked some of the power they were having on gov't. He told them they had to be satisfied with a reasonable profit, instead of maxing it out due to what that does to everyone else in our economy. And they never liked that. They sit in wait until they could get in a president who would unleash them again, and Reagan was that president, as every president since Reagan has done.

    The division we are seeing today is caused by the suffering of what these robber barons and people like Clinton have created. For they own her and both congresses. Hard economic times create division, or if you already have it, it goes on steroids.. We saw the same thing during the great depression, but what anti trump loud mouth here knows a damn thing about their own history? I have seen no evidence that they know a thing about it. All they are good at is name calling, which belongs on an elementary school yard, for this is infantile behavior.

    Some people get it, they understand why trump has the support he has and why sanders had the support he had. A rebellion from both the left and the right. The people who do not understand are just so disconnected that they couldn't find the way out of a room with only one open door. So, there is another division here, and it is between the people who understand the big picture, and those that because of personality disorders, a lack of a real education, and blind tribalism are not fit to even cast a vote. It astounds me. Well, reality will not go away, and you can ignore it, deny it, or whatever. It will bite you in the arse, even as the disconnected will wonder what in the hell just took a chunk of meat out of their arses. Eventually most of the disconnected with finally get it, but they will be missing most of their arse before it happens.
     
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    This is indeed one of the most laughable bits of quibbling I've ever seen posted on an internet forum. You're actually trying to argue that The Donald is not a full-fledged capitalist pig and a part of the capitalist pigocracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Come on now, all of you dear, delightful deplorables, your patently sucky standard-bearer, The Donald, is an utter, abject, asinine charlatan. Mm-hmm, it’s not at all excessive hyperbole to say that he’s all hype and no substance whatsoever. There’s no substance to justify his self-promoted image of an uber successful businessman, he’s far from being a self-made tycoon and his vaunted business ventures have actually been colossal flops. His alpha male persona is certainly without substance; this is masked by his narcissism and blowhardiness, but in actuality he simply lacks the inner mettle, the psychological strength and force of character characteristic of the paragon of manhood that he fancies himself to be. And there’s absolutely and abjectly no substance whatsoever to his affected populism, his I-only-want-to-become-president-to-fight-for-the-little-guy-and-make-America-great schtick is pure demagogic masquerade, straight-out and sheer rabble-rousing rubbish. Is this all ad hominem? Well, it’s certainly legitimately ad hominem, since Mr. Trump’s personal conduct, personality, and raging superiority complex are such that they’ve diverted the attention of voters away from issues and turned a presidential election into merely a vehicle for Mr. Trump’s ego to pursue further self-aggrandizement.
     
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    Well, my Trumpite friends, are you-all really unable to see that Mr. Trump is losing the election big-time because of his lack of substance, his sexism, his racism, and his quite unappealing narcissism? Are you really unable to appreciate how lame it is to embrace conspiracy theories to explain away his imminent defeat at the ballot box? Or does The Donald's disconnectedness from the consensus reality that the rest of us live and move and have our being in (or haven't you figured out yet that he mentally exists in his own narcissistic alternate reality) trickle down into the unskilled-at-critical-thinking brains of his alt-right supporters, rendering them poignantly challenged when it comes to owning up to the manifestly colossal blunder they've made in making Mr. Trump their standard-bearer?
     
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    Mm-hmm, Trump's chumps simply fail to see him for the utter fraud that he is, that's how pathetically desperate they are for a standard-bearer.
     
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    Trump is not much of a man much less an American.. I think most Americans will be relieved when he fades into obscurity..
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Exactly, the left polarize, dismiss and demonize for decades and then try to play to our sense of fair play when its not going their way. Too late she cried. I wouldnt give a leftist the time of day, like they've done to us for decades.
     
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    If you really want to know what is the greatest polarizer, it is not trump, no sir. It is when American learn from wilkileaks, and from videos made of democratic operatives paid by Clinton and the DNC, that these treasonous democrats are rigging elections in various ways...even against another democrat, sanders, and then acting just like brown shirts by inciting violence outside of trump rallies to then get trump supporters blamed so the in the bag MSM can run with those stories to hurt trump. Nazi tactics. These democratic operatives are on video telling how they cannot use buses to get voters in, so they have to rent cars and take the operation through two entities in order to make it harder to catch them, and they have done this for years. Then when trump says the election is rigged MSM's heads explode and now he is a tinfoil hat nutter.

    What is polarizes the people is the fact that Hillary supporters know this stuff is going on, and they are ok with it because it helps their criminal candidate. So it make people like me, a stein supporter think that Clinton supporters are nothing more than scumbag criminality enabling sons of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es. Dangerous to a republic but right at home in brown shirts in some fascist system. This polarizes the hell out of me. In the same way the good germans were polarized against Nazi supporters years ago. I see a comparison here that is not unfair at all.
     
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    Per the title of this thread, not nearly as much as the continuous lies of Hillary.
     
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    If Hillary wins -- and I don't think she will -- then she will enter office already known to be the most corrupt and lying president ever to sit inside the Oval Office. That's SOME leftist legacy to leave this nation; especially considering that Hillary was once part of the legal team assigned to destroy Richard Nixon for corruption and lies. Just think about it, Hillary is soooooooooooo corrupt and such a liar that even Richard Nixon would recoil from her in disgust, and THAT's what the nation's Left fully intends to place inside the Oval Office.

    The Left has got absolutely no business pointing the trembling finger of shame elsewhere but at the face that each one sees staring back in the mirror.
     

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