Donald Trump's Ego Is Going to Further Polarize American Politics

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps.Trump would further polarize America... But the treachery and corruption of Hillary Clinton would destroy it altogether.
    Let's see- polarization, or self-destruction?? What to do? Hmmmmm...
     
  2. Maccabee

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    You keep saying that but if Trump wins guess who's going to be one of the first to rub in your face.
     
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    charleslb New Member

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    Hmm, you really can't see how empowering a race-baiting, racist, sexist, uncompassionate, aggressive, narcissistic individual with the powers of the presidency might be a destructive choice for the American electorate to make?
     
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    You have a rather perverse perception of the left.
     
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    I will be here on November 9th to take on all comers.

    Looking forward to it, actually. :salute:
     
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    Yes, due to the perverse notion that the left thanks what they say is what they actually accomplish.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course- but were talking shades of disaster here. Trump is a poor choice that will probably exacerbate some problems. Clinton is a sure thing, she would sell out the entire nation if the price were right, either in power or money. Trump is politically ignorant, and that has made him look foolish. Clinton is a skilled political gamer- but not in any way an honorable one; dodging prosecutions (all lawyers know how to do dishonest things legally) and hiding all the corruption and illegal acts successfully from the people, getting them to thank her for selling them out.

    I will have to take ignorant over a skilled and dedicated crook anytime. At least Trump leaves the nation with a chance of survival.
     
  8. charleslb

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    Nationalism, racism, sexism, and capitalism, the three isms that a President Trump would be a force for, are in fact evils. And yes, to state what should be obvious, only serious evil and suffering can come from electing to the highest office in the land an individual who will use its powers to uphold these especially heinous human evils.
     
  9. Maccabee

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    Hope you brought your appetite cause if Trump wins you're going to eat a lot of crow.
     
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    Well, if Mr. Trump wins it will be a great victory for his ego, and in short order a catastrophic pratfall for the alt-right.
     
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    But of course he's not going to win. Well, he's not even running for president any more, individuals who run for president actually talk about issues.
     
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    If he doesn't win your country is going to be well and truly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed! I predict IS will be prowling your shopping malls within months.
     
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    You do have a point there, but never fear; if Hillary Clinton wins then she will charge suspected ISIS terrorists for Pay to Play. They will have to dump money into her private off-shore account on a sliding scale basis. She will charge so much for the bombing of a day care center or a shopping mall and another set price for taking out a congregation-packed church or a night club.
     
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    [​IMG] Blimey what a cynic! Obviously not a Clintonista!! [​IMG]
     
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    Indeed. In regards to remaining Hillary supporters, one wonders how they could remain supporters of her in the face of the Wikileaks and Project Veritas information dumps and with the Director of the FBI announcing only nine days before the election that she's once again under investigation. I mean unless they are the fabled low-information types KNOWN to be the core constituency Dem Party voter then they have GOT to have no respect for the concept of ethics or honor or integrity.
     
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    Mebbe they got a thang for scheming corrupt megalomaniacs? :mrgreen:
     
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    Perhaps. But of a certainty evidence is rapidly mounting that they have no genuine love for their nation or at least no use for the root core concepts of honor, ethics, or integrity.
     
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    Oh, so only a big, aggressive-talking, chronically angry-looking download (1).jpg , faux alpha male can protect the United States from "terrorism". LOL! If the political leaders of the United States and the elites of the capitalist world system ever actually decide that they wish to cut down on anti-Western hostility and "terrorism", well, they merely need to stop inflicting imperialism on and warring against the peoples of the Ummah. Oh, I know, we're supposed to simply view "terrorists" as unmitigated villains, but, well, is it really all that out of line for ISIS operatives and sympathizers to bring the fight to a country that's seeking to maintain its hegemony in the Middle East by perpetrating military violence against those whose only crime is that they aren't on board with being subjects of the American empire and submissive peons of the capitalist world system? That is, this country is waging an unjust war to achieve and protect the interests of its economic elites, and what our politicians and news media program us to view as illegitimate acts of "terrorism" are merely well-provoked incidents of retaliation. And, therefore, perhaps it might be a good idea, if our ruling class sincerely wishes to bring an end to "terrorism", for it to simply stop aggressing against Muslims and inciting their arguably just wrath?! To put it quite simplistically for you, they aren't attacking the West because the West has been leaving them in peace, perhaps if we did begin to leave them in peace they might be more likely to by and large stop carrying out retaliatory acts of mayhem in Western societies, as they would no longer have anything to take revenge for. But of course you're probably quite well indoctrinated with an ideological narrative in which they merely do "terrorism" because they're wild-eyed fanatics, and so the simple logic of attempting to reduce "terrorism" by desisting from provoking it will sound absurd to you. Oh well.
     
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    It wasn't Trump that called 20% of the population deplorable and irredeemable
    It want Trump that called another 20% of the population naïve basement dwellers
    So please take your bull crap elsewhere us informed are sick of smelling it
     
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    Ah, but the racism of the alt-right is in fact deplorable.
     
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    And it'll be a complete loss for you. Not only I get a "I'm right and you're wrong", but I also get a "in your face" and a "you lose, we win" if Trump wins. However if Hillary wins then I'll be again right because she's going to sink this country and I saw it coming.
     
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    What racism?
     
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    Now you're merely playing dumb.
     
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    Spoken like a true Clintonista. [​IMG] Part of her campaign team are you?
     
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    Actually, as a Marxist I'm not a fan of Mrs. Clinton at all. She and all mainstream politicos are upholders of the capitalist status quo, illicitly in bed with the capitalist ruling class, and traitors to democracy. Mr. Trump, however, is a good deal more disturbing. Firstly, he's actually a member of, not merely a sell-out to the capitalist ruling class, and therefore can be expected to be guided more consistently and thoroughly by its class interests and worldview. The idea that he'll follow through on his demagogic rhetoric and become an authentic champion of the working class is abject wishful thinking, and also betrays the pro-capitalist bias of conservatives. Secondly, Mr. Trump is a sexist, a racist, a narcissist, and simply an unkind human being, not someone who can safely be entrusted with the powers of the presidency. Well, all of this is to say that I'm not anti-Trump because I'm pro-Clinton, as you seem to assume, no, I'm not at all a Clinton supporter; rather, I'm anti-Trump purely because he's clearly the greater evil. I hope that this clarifies my opposition to your candidate; and disabuses you of the simplistic and erroneous idea that I'm a "Clintonista", indeed nothing could be further from the truth.
     

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