Eat Less Red Meat, Scientists Said. Now Some Believe That Was Bad Advice.

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  1. FreshAir

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    certified non-gmo is a thing cause corporations will not tell consumers something is GMO and consumers want to know - not saying all gmo is bad, just that consumers have a right to know what they are eating

    when people talk about processed food they mean things like twinkies, cereals, ect.... they are not talking about cooking your food for dinner
     
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    Organ meats contain Vitamin C, flesh not so much.
     
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    it contains some, and as carnivores do not get survey, it's enough if one doesn't eat a lot of carbs, but I agree, organ meats have more and are good for you

    I am not the biggest fan of liver, but try to eat once a week

    there are some companies now that sell the freeze-dried powdered versions of these in capsule form for those that really can't stand the taste, one is Ancestral Supplements
     
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    see this is exactly what I mean. it's most likely that everything you've ever eaten with an exception of salt is a GMO and that's because salt is not organic.

    Yes again I know idiots. Most foods we eat are processed even if you cook them at home.
     
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    see, you're trying to play down what people are talking about, if one mixes genes from an animal in a apple, it's now a new version of apple, just give it a new name and tell people what you did... why are you against people knowing what they eat? bad or good is not the point, the point is people have a right to know and decide for themselves

    again, you're playing down processed food saying almost all food is processed as cooking food makes it processed food - while technically true, that is not what people mean by avoiding processed food

    heavily processed foods like seed oils and such should be avoided when possible
     
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    who says that this sequence of amino acids is the proprietary genes of an animal? If you acquire the same gene sequence after 400 years of selective breeding is it not the same gene sequence?

    An apple whose genetics have been modified is still an apple you don't call it something else because it's not something else if you think it is you are a conspiracy theorist.

    This is what happens when uninformed people are manipulated by marketing.


    Almost all foods you eat are processed explain how they're not.
     
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    You don't really get a lot.

    Oh, so now you're going to attack people who can't afford to eat.
     
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    did I say it was, I said that as one example, but the point is the public has a right to know when they are buying a new version of fruit or vegetable, give it a new name, there are many names of different types of apples, you create a new one, give it a name - people have a right to know

    this is what happens when people want an uninformed consumer.. they want to hide the facts, and attack people for wanting to know the facts, what is wrong with having an informed consumer?

    "Almost all foods you eat are processed explain how they're not."

    you know what people mean when they say processed food, they are not talking about cooking your food
     
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    the right to know what? Why give an apple a different name it's an apple it's not anything new.

    who is the Boogeyman? Maybe the lizard people or perhaps men from Mars.

    Most people aren't familiar with genetics case in point you saying animal DNA when referring to an apple an apple isn't an animal therefore it does not possess animal DNA.

    It would probably take a doctorate in genetics to be informed and at that point you probably wouldn't worry about GMOs because you're no longer an idiot.
     
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    why do you think people that want the facts about what they eat believe in the boogeyman, you want to stay uninformed, not everyone does though

    yes, not everyone is smart enough to understand, doesn't mean corps should hide the facts from the public

    you seem to be of the opinion that if the public knew they would not eat it, so you want it hidden from the public

    if your proud of your new creation, give it a new name, many different varieties of apples out there with different names
     
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    Most carnivores can synthesize their own Vitamin C. We are among a handful of mammals that cannot.
     
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    I agree, and did not say otherwise, I just said the more carbs you eat the more Vitamin C you need, Carnivores need much less and can get all they need from meat

    I do not eat a meat only diet, but people survive on it just fine
     
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    Everything I've read about it indicates that carnivores get most of the vitamin C they need, not from meat, but from synthesizing it in their body (an ability we (and great apes and guinea pigs and fruit bats) don't have). They have much higher levels of Vitamin C in their body than we do (if we don't majorly supplement with Vit C). Yes, they get some from meat/organs, etc., but mostly they synthesize it.
     
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    what I have read and seen of people that eat a meat only diet is that sugar and vitamin C compete for the same transporter, thus more Vitamin C is needed for those eating more carbs, and that human carnivores do just fine on their Vitamin C needs and do not get scurvy
     
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    How does a label saying not GMO on a package of Himalayan salt convey facts about what someone is eating?


    Who's hiding things? The cultivation of food products isn't part of it's nutritional value.

    The public doesn't know anything because they are lazy. Generic modification has been going on for a least 400 years.

    What if you didn't create something new, you just modified a pink lady apple? It already has a name.
     
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    Everyone has to do it their own way, I believe sugar is far worse than meat, whole grains are good but processed carbs are worse than meat
    Id bet vegans eat alot of things that are very bad for them but they believe its ok because its not meat
     
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    it doesn't, doesn't hurt anything being there though

    did they redo all the nutrient tests, different versions of apples have different nutritional values, some have more sugar, ect... why try to pretend to be another variety of apple, just give it a new name

    the public doesn't know many things cause people like you advocate for them not being allowed to know

    if you genetically modified it, give it a new name, be proud of your new creation
     
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    Yeah it's marketing first off on everything it is on its falsely there except salt. So it's like calling something part of a balanced breakfast.

    It's hokem to win over idiots.

    If the genetics they altered didn't alter the sugar content why would they? What would be the propose? o
    Why would it be another verity of an apple?

    okay when did I advocate for that?

    Why?
     
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    Telling the truth is an "attack' only in your own mind.
     
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    I agree, saying something 'is a part of a balanced breakfast' on a label means nothing, especially since cereal is not part of a balanced breakfast imo

    now 'fiber-rich' cereals tells you something, doesn't mean it's good for you, but at least it says something

    'low fat' tells you something too, usually.. 'sugar added for flavor'

    it's obvious you do not want to know what you eat

    if I say ate pink lady apples all my life, then had an allergic reaction to a new gmo version without knowing it was a gmo version, I would have to stop eating them, if they had another name, I could just avoid them

    hiding information like this from the public is wrong, the reason they do it is fear people won't eat them if they know the truth - maybe they will, maybe they won't.. but that is their choice

    I would deny any company a patent for their genetic changes on fruit and vegetable unless they gave them a new name - if it's the same, then no reason for a patent
     
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    You sure enjoy hyperbole. Do you honestly believe that people on welfare are lazy and are taking money from your pocket?

    Trump will waste billions on a useless wall, but you whine spending a few cents to help feed children?
     
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    Hiding information? Who's hiding information from you the lizard people?
     
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    Why is the government a charity?
     
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    Any vegan I know (I know a couple) live in mega doses of sugar. Fruits chocked full of sugar and sugary vegetables and then there are those denatured food products like fake meat and tofu.
     

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