Egypt to deny Jews religious rights

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  1. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    I am afraid that Israel presence on disputed land discounts your claim and enforces mine. If they want to leave they will if they do not want to leave they will not despite the corrupt international courts opinion, because it is most certainly of the world, Israel is guided by divine manifest destiny.

    [​IMG]NEVER AGAIN
     
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    What does that have to do with Judah who did marry a Canaanite?



    GENESIS 38:2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in to her. 38:12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died

    Judah (Yehudah), who was Syrian (Aramean), was the progenitor of the original tribe of Judah (Yehudah). He did not have his origins in Southren Canaan as did his offspring. The five sons of Judah (Yehudah) were native born Canaanites :

    1.) Er ( who died)

    2.) Onan ( who died)

    3.) Shelah

    4.) Perez (Phares or Pharez)

    5.) Zerah

    Their mothers were all Canaanite women of Southren Canaan. Judah's (Yehudah's) first two sons died. The descendants of Shelah, Perez (Phares or Pharez), and Zerah, were native born Canaanites.

    These facts concerning the origins of the tribe of Judah (Yehudah), must honestly and humbly be faced by all today who claim roots in the tribe of Judah (Yehudah). Yes! the Holy Scriptures tell us that the foremothers of the tribe of Judah (Yehudah), were infact, all Canaanite woman of Southern Canaan.
     
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    I am simply saying that the important issue to be concerned with is that Issac was the seed of Abraham and Rebecca did not have any Canaanite blood (and was also blessed according to scripture) in her and they populated Israel (Ishmael populated the Arab nations), then all of Gods Choose people are born of Issac and Rebecca. I am not disagreeing with what you posted nor about Juda. All I am claiming is that the tribes of Israel come from Rebecca and Issac. It does not matter who married who after the fact of Rebecca and Issac, THEY (Issac and Rebbecca) are the people who provided the DIVINE bloodline for their offspring.


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    Not unless the grandchildren and great grandchildren, etc were all immaculate conceptions.
     
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    A canaanite who spoke a canaanite language, NOT arabic. What does any of this have to do with YOUR claims-

     
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    Arabic and Hebrew are both related to the Canaanite language.. They are all Semites.
     
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    Agreed, and we've seen what happens to arabs with no defence against armed groups.

    Indeed Israel may or may not be holocausted etc (Not actually true - even in 1947), however I asked you if Israel had no way to defend its borders would it give anyone who could the moral right to come in and set their own state.

    For example, some well armed africans who happened to claim some ancestors having lived there for a time. Would they have a moral right to come in and set a new Tel Aviv and take over Haifa?


    Interesting, but lets not go there. After all, Sadaat had offered comprehensive peace for years prior to Camp David and even prior to 73. Israel was not interested and thought it could easily hold Sinai as long as it wanted. It took 73 to convince them otherwise. And the peace of Camp David was no more and no less sincere than any previious offers.

    You should remember that I as a non Israeli have no interest in only reading versions of israeli history written for the aims of buffing up Israel's national prestige.
     
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    The oldest known reference to Thamud Arabs is a 715 BC inscription of the Assyrian king Sargon II which mentions them as being among the people of eastern and central Arabia subjugated by the Assyrians and settled in Samaria.

    Thamud - were a people of the ancient Arabian Peninsula, who were known from the 1st millennium BCE to near the time of Muhammad. Numerous Thamudic rock enscriptions and petroglyphs have been found on Mount Athlab and throughout central Arabia and present day Saudi Arabia.. They used the same Semitic script as Arabic..

    So in addition to Canaanites and the Hebrew tribes, there were Arabs....
     
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    Noooo, Hebrew IS a Canaanite language. Arabic is not a canaanite language. You claimed they spoke arabic, you did not only claim they spoke a semitic language.
     
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    It is also worth to mention that by agreeing to the David Accords, Begin believed it would be more difficult for future Arab states to get similar concessions from Israel, thus leaving Israel in a greater bargaining position.
     
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    Soooo full of (*)(*)(*)(*)

    You just added the "and settled in Samaria" part. Good god woman. DIG DEEP for some remaining shred of integrity, if you can.

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    No where near Samaria
     
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    Noooo, Hebrew IS a Canaanite language. Arabic is not a canaanite language. You claimed they spoke arabic, you did not only claim they spoke a semitic language.
     
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    Sargon II (BCE 721-705) mentions the Arab tribes he defeated and settled in Samaria (the former Northern Kingdom of Israel):



    "Upon a trust (-inspiring oracle given by) my lord Ashur, I crushed the tribes of Tamud, Ibadidi, Marsimanu, and Haiapa, the Arabs who live, far away, in the desert (and) who know neither overseers nor official(s) and who had not (yet) brought their tribute to any king. I deported their survivors and settled (them) in Samaria." (p.196, "Sargon II: The Fall of Samaria," James B. Pritchard, Editor.

    The Ancient Near East, An Anthology of Texts and Pictures. Princeton University Press. 1958. pbk)

    http://www.isaiah666.com/sargon_annals.pdf
     
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    What's the name of the 19th century holy man?
     
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    Thank you Americans for pumping up Mubarak with billions of dollars...he is gone now and a new worse monster that is anti ameican/Israeli is about to emerge.... im sure the Israelis are loving it...
     
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    There is no way of knowing which way Egypt will go.
     
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    Come on now, be fair, those are Obama's friends you are talking about.
     
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    The US has been buying security and trading partners for Israel for decades while they have refused peace and annexed more occupied territory.
     
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    The wikipedia page you quoted doesnt as much as even contain the word Samaria. You added it because you lie, and you cant help yourself.
     
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    Sargon II (BCE 721-705) mentions the Arab tribes he defeated and settled in Samaria (the former Northern Kingdom of Israel):


    "Upon a trust (-inspiring oracle given by) my lord Ashur, I crushed the tribes of Tamud, Ibadidi, Marsimanu, and Haiapa, the Arabs who live, far away, in the desert (and) who know neither overseers nor official(s) and who had not (yet) brought their tribute to any king. I deported their survivors and settled (them) in Samaria." (p.196, "Sargon II: The Fall of Samaria," James B. Pritchard, Editor.

    The Ancient Near East, An Anthology of Texts and Pictures. Princeton University Press. 1958. pbk)

    http://www.isaiah666.com/sargon_annals.pdf
     
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    There is a huge reluctance on the part of Zionists to acknowledge that there are other parallel histories and other people living in Syria Palestine and the Levant.

    As if the Jews were the only inhabitants of those lands... as if they had not intermarried with the Canaanites, Arabs, Phoenicians etc. .. as if their language and culture had not intermingled for thousands of years.

    Its purpose is not goodness.. its a defence of special entitlement.

    Sargon II (BCE 721-705) mentions the Arab tribes he defeated and settled in Samaria (the former Northern Kingdom of Israel):



    "Upon a trust (-inspiring oracle given by) my lord Ashur, I crushed the tribes of Tamud, Ibadidi, Marsimanu, and Haiapa, the Arabs who live, far away, in the desert (and) who know neither overseers nor official(s) and who had not (yet) brought their tribute to any king. I deported their survivors and settled (them) in Samaria." (p.196, "Sargon II: The Fall of Samaria," James B. Pritchard, Editor.

    The Ancient Near East, An Anthology of Texts and Pictures. Princeton University Press. 1958. pbk)

    http://www.isaiah666.com/sargon_annals.pdf
     
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    And now we are back to where we started before you started making the (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

     
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    Those tribes were Arabs.

    Sargon II (BCE 721-705) mentions the Arab tribes he defeated and settled in Samaria (the former Northern Kingdom of Israel):


    "Upon a trust (-inspiring oracle given by) my lord Ashur, I crushed the tribes of Tamud, Ibadidi, Marsimanu, and Haiapa, the Arabs who live, far away, in the desert (and) who know neither overseers nor official(s) and who had not (yet) brought their tribute to any king. I deported their survivors and settled (them) in Samaria." (p.196, "Sargon II: The Fall of Samaria," James B. Pritchard, Editor.

    The Ancient Near East, An Anthology of Texts and Pictures. Princeton University Press. 1958. pbk)

    http://www.isaiah666.com/sargon_annals.pdf
     
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    No one disputes there were other peoples living in the Levant. Old testament is full of stories of the people of Israels battles with those people. Stop grasping for refuge in the strawmen. Your claims that they spoke arabic is the only thing being challenged.
     
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    Like I said, they are not "arabs" as the word is defined today. They were "nomads"


    The root of the word has many meanings in Semitic languages including "west/sunset," "desert," "mingle," "merchant," "raven" and "comprehensible" with all of these having varying degrees of relevance to the emergence of the name. It is also possible that some forms were metathetical from ʿ-B-R "moving around" (Arabic ʿ-B-R "traverse"), and hence, it is alleged, "nomadic."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_(etymology)
     

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