Egyptian army slaughters protestors

Breaking Presser by Cabinet

(Very interesting to note that Al Jazeera, BBC World, CNN stopped feed when they realised it would be given first in English!!!! ) why?

Key points

Egypt it fighting terrorism

Egypt will not accept religious ideological fascism ruling country

Egypt will meet all goals they were mandated by people to carry out 30th June

Egypt is observing closely statements against Egyptian government from USA and Taliban said in same sentence! said at beginning and repeated again at the end!

Egypt is closely noting who is standing with Egypt against terrorism and religious ideological fascism and who is not and will act accordingly




Very powerful speech and straight to the point

 

You don't think that your half-assed coup propaganda has created such a nonsense perspective, surely. It reads like The Famous Five Do Cairo.

 

That video reminds me of the sort of propaganda that's served up here in the west. A video of such a person could be used to demonise ''Muslims,'' just as it is being used here to demonise supporters of Egypt's now deposed democratically elected PM.

 

Abu , I heard something along these line Radio news this morning

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Egypt’s key player: Saudi Arabia

The international reaction to Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s violent crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood has been more or less the same, at least publicly. Condemning the regime for the violence, while asking for a diplomatic solution, has been the U.S. and the EU’s approach. But one country has remained silent so far and it is the key actor in the crisis: Saudi Arabia.

As long as Riyadh continues to bankroll the new regime throughout the interim period, General al-Sisi will not take American diplomatic efforts seriously, simply because he does not need to. The cancellation of military exercises by the US is just a symbolic gesture. Even withdrawing the yearly $1.3 billion in aid from Washington may be met by a shrug from al-Sisi.In fact, Saudi Arabia has pledged to cover that shortfall, if the US decided to go ahead with this threat.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/16/egypts-key-player-saudi-arabia/#ixzz2cEp7tyCU




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He is no actor. Just another hateful Salafi / Wahhabi dog.

 

Saw it. I suspect that when the speech was given.in English there was no.opportunity to."interpret" a translation. On BBC it was quiet amusing as they started to.break.away but.we're.waiting for.their translator to.translate from the Arabic to.English. and then nothing . Did they and CNN etc ever broadcast the press conference do.you know?

 

The Wahhabi police chief spoke out yesterday in support of Egypt's US/Saudi-backed military rulers:

The language is familiar. When the west invades other countries and kills people, it does so to ''stabilise'' them, but when indigenous people are fighting against an authoritative ruler that the west approves of, they are ''destabilising'' the country.





Here's what seems to me to be a good article on Egypt, although I'm not sure that Abu would agree. I would be interested in what he or anyone else who lives in Egypt has to say about it.

 

Yes I realise that, but he is being used to represent supporters of Egypt's now deposed democratically elected government, just as such a person might be used in the west to represent ''Muslims'' in general.

Don't you think that some perfectly decent Egyptians, among those who voted for the candidates from the Islamic parties that won almost 75% of parliamentary seats, in the 2011 election which was considered to have been fair and open at the time, might still support the government that they elected?

 

Is Egypt heading down the road Syria took?

 

No.

The people that the US and Saudi Arabia support, already rule Egypt.

 

Well that is who they are, how else are they supposed to be shown on TV? I do not think decent people would vote for a Muslim Brotherhood or any Islamist Party. Do you know 27% voted for a Salafi Islamic Party? Salafis / Wahhabis are basically the political arm of Al-Qaeda. Same ideology.

Just because they participated in a democratic voting, does not make them decent people , it does not give them authority to decide who is a good Muslim and who is not. It does not give them a right to enforce Islamic law on who do not want it enforced on them.

What the Egyptian Society needs is less Islamism and more Secularism. If 27% vote for a political branch of Al-Qaeda, and if together with other Islamist parties they gain control of Presidency and Parliament, then it shows you that Egyptian society is not ready to responsibly participate in the political life of their country. If Egypt continued on the path it was on then it was headed for a collapse and a mass exodus of intellectuals, secularists and Christians. The Army had to step in and put a stop to protect the Egyptian Society from total collapse. Keep in mind that the 27% who voted for Salafi Political Party, they will never reform or change their views. It is not as if they are salafis / wahhabis today, and tomorrow they come to their sense and suddenly become Seculars tolerant of women and minorities. Does not work that way!

 

Morsi and the MB seem to disagree.

 

Together with the 48% who voted for Muslim Brotherhood backed Freedom and Justice party candidates, that means around 75% of the population of Egypt voted for the Islamic parties.

Yes I know that Salafists are considered to be extremists.

But as 75% of the population voted for Islamic parties, what else do they expect, other than more Islamism?

I didn't say that it did. But judging by the election results, most Egyptians do not want a secular society.

If they did want a secular society, then why did the Islamic parties get 75% of the vote?

 

So if 75% want Islamism and Sharia law, then they should simply have it? If they want to do jihad in Syria, then they should simply be allowed to? If they want to burn churches and mosques, then they should be allowed to? If all of a sudden Salafis decide they want to destroy the pyramids (as they already expressed desire to do) then they should simply be allowed to

What if a woman does not want to wear hijab or niqab, does it mean she is supposed to, because 75% voted for Islamists?

 

The other choice was a Mubarak 2. It was no choice.

 

The way that democracy is supposed to work is that the population gets what the majority wants.

This is often restricted by constitutions, as is the case in Egypt. So if a majority of Egyptians did not approve of the new constitution, then why did they not vote against it in the referendum?

 

All of these parties were ''Mubarak 2''?

 

http://www.economist.com/news/middl...nstitution-will-be-endorsed-argument-far-over

 

How many seats did they all contest ? I really don't remember the complexities of it now but ................ at the time I saw they had little choice. Egypts unfair elections they were called if I remember rightly/


And wasn't the next one supposed to have been held in March?

As for the referendum it was a terrible mess.

http://egyptelections.carnegieendowment.org/2013/01/18/next-steps-toward-egypt’s-2013-elections-2

 

Twaddle. Mubarak was a professional sleaze-ball and torturer. Morsi is an inexperienced politician charged with forging a new Egypt out of the decadent slag-heap of the old one. Your comparison is utterly stupid.

Now those that overthrew Egypt's first democracy have a guerrilla war which will run and run. Did they think that muslims would simply convert to collar-and-tie Zion-toadies and disappear overnight ? As Dusty pointed out- the larger numbers of Egyptians voted for muslims. You coup-buffs can't even muster solid support fro your slaughter here on PF, let alone in bloody Egypt.

 

Well there are other Egyptians 'on the ground' who disagree with your narrative.

 

No moon I did not expect ....................... I am a mere observer just like you, I am though not so ready to judge others by a Western yard stick, especially one which has always proved false...

The elections were far from fair or balanced. Independents could only contests one third of the seats for a start. 'The Free and Unfair Elections'

Even so, as we have seen, Egyptians still had hope but where were the elections of March this year? What happened to them? And what about Dustys wonderful referendum ? It was also a mess with no time given to even read it for most before it was put to the vote and many were disqualified from voting at all as well as there not being Judges in many places.

If these were little quibbles there would be no fighting now. And no I do not think the USA has much to say about it anymore because it seems Egypt may have found a new strange bedfellow who is picking up the tab. The Egyptian Army is made up of Egyptians moon, what ever monies are involved, which of course they are, they too do not want beheadings all over the place or their women covered in black sacks or their girl children uneducated either which is where Morsi was taking them. It was to become the uneducated ruling over the educated. That isn't Islam.

I could probably have argued the pros and cons of the elections better at the time, I forget things though so can't do it justice now.


Suez looms its head again, I fear. It broke the British Empire and it could very well break the American Empire too and with it take your Israelis ........wait and see.


I think Egypt will get its democracy even now but Morsi and the elections without a constitution in place was a terrible mistake which Egyptians are paying dearly for now. That is what came of listening to the Clinton and the Cermeron ! Make no mistake Morsi was Clintons baby.

 

Here is an interesting video showing Egyptian police forces planting their own weapons to make it look like they belong to the MB:

[video=youtube;Pl37TdXMNMg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl37TdXMNMg#at=52[/video]

 

They just shot him down


Lest we forget;

 

Muslim Brotherhood are going down - Inshalllahh !!