Election Predictions....

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  1. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    But they did vote for Obama twice, and they still don't necessarily support Trump, either.
     
  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My son is a millenial, and he's not voting for Trump or Clinton.
     
  3. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary Clinton will carry 97% of the dead people votes, 94% of non-American votes and 99% of computer miscalibration votes.
     
  4. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    I'm 26, I am a moderate republican and have voted republican in all the elections so far. I do my part lol.
     
  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My son is 31. I'm not sure which party he belongs to. He has a Masters Degree, he is a war veteran, and he is conservative. But he doesn't care for Trump, so I think he's probably going to vote Libertarian. I have been an independent for about 36 years. I am a conservative who thinks we should walk softly and prudently but carry a big stick, who believes in the social contract of taking care of our vulnerable, who believes we should pay for our spending (actually pay for it), who believes we must scrupulously obey the Constitution and the laws of the land, who believes in old fashioned notions of patriotism and service to country. :salute: :flagus:

    I also believe in craft breweries, and I believe I'm about to pour one for myself. Cheers! :beer:
     
  6. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    Cheers!

    I'm really more of an independent than a republican. If I voted in the 2000's idk if I would have supported Bush. I'm still very critical of his policies. As a moderate I think trump represents my moderate sensibilities.
     
  7. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's one for ya ...

    "The real reason that we can’t have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post “Thou shalt not steal,” “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” and “Thou shalt not lie” in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment." - George Carlin
     
  8. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Building a wall is not moderate. Starting a trade war with China is not moderate. Promoting nationalism is not moderate. I wonder if you don't understand what Trump actually stands for, or if you don't understand what moderate means.
     
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    If you're a moderate republican, you shouldn't vote for Trump. You should take a stand against the extremists in your party, and you should send a clear message that you will not vote for flashy, feel good candidates that don't represent the people.
     
  10. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats just make up anything. They claim Trump is not a conservative so conservatives must vote against him. That he is not a moderate by a rightwinger, so moderates much vote against him. That he is a liberal. That he is KKK. That he is a Nazi. That he is a radical leftwinger. Radical rightwinger. Any personal attacks to divert from issues without even pretending for any integrity in the claims.
     
  11. Andrew Jackson

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    At the end of the day, none of those characterizations mean a thing.

    Trump is toast. Nothing can change that FACT.

    The GOP needs to get an early start on taking her on in 2020.
     
  12. AtsamattaU

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    The one who did the most to divert people's attention from the issues was Trump himself.
     
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    building a wall is to protect our national interest,
    "Fixing" a one way trade agreement with China is to protect our national interest.
    Promoting nationalism is as an American thing as one could possibly do.

    What part of AMERICA FIRST do you not understand

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  14. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Building a wall does nothing to protect our national interest - we aren't being pillaged by Mongols ffs. Trump has not said anything about "fixing" our international treaties, he's only talked about taxing the crap out of foreign-made products (i.e., starting a trade war). And Trump's nationalism is white nationalism, not American nationalism. There is a difference.

    Here's the part of AMERICA FIRST I don't understand. America did not rise to prominence from an "America First" attitude. We got to where we are because of commitment to core principles and values; American exceptionalism is a byproduct of that commitment to principles and values. Tell me, what principles are Trump committed to? The only one I've heard him mention is "winning," which worked as well for Charlie Sheen as I expect it to work for anyone.

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  15. Conviction

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    Do you actually believe in sovereignty? Do you think my ancestors fought the Mexicans in the Alamo, to have them jump the fence?
     
  16. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    If America continues on it's present course, I predict more future civil unrest, shocker, as low skilled immigrants of Hispanic descent challenge African Americans for what little jobs there are. With growth non existent for a decade, following with one of the largest financial collapses in history. Recession still looms, and everything has been getter more tense, recently? Yeah?

    This is the critical juncture where we consider what possible alternatives we have. I am of the ilk that when the tide rises, all boats are lifted. Become more business friendly aka competitive on the global level. No longer shall we act as hegemony of the world, but become the "global citizen" we're always preached of us of being about. To our culture now we're hallowed out because we have designated ourselves no moral authority. Just whims of the power structure that have enabled so far. Erosion of the constitution will occur.

    Now tell me, do you still want to vote for Hillary?

    So shameful. Enter Donald Trump...

    I'd like to save all of the 'nativists', that just seem so hungry for jobs, good paycheck.we haven't had a raise in years. Let's just pat ourselves on the back a little. Rather than engaged in petty disputes in Yemen.

    Because God knows, I have no clue where the clinton special interest train leads to or where it stops. Let's just say, private and public policy are of utmost discretion.

    My guess is she swindles you all again and signs TPP anyways.
     
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    It's the 21st century, they aren't crossing over to take back Mexico, they're coming over to work (which is more than the drug addicts in the Rust Belt are doing). If you want to stop illegal immigrants from coming over here, then stop businesses from hiring them and paying them more money than they can make back home. We need political leaders who live and think in 2016, not 1836.
     
  18. Conviction

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    Pretty sure they fought them for sovereignty, something we are losing daily.

    Pretty obvious...
     
  19. JIMV

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    Way back in 2014 I started this thread and managed to call the results within 1 seat in congress...Today I am going to try again...

    I see the presidential race as dependent on three things. Can Trump get within 2 points nationally. If so he will will by 4 points. The second variable is the Bradley/Brexit effect. Are folk polled feeding pollsters what they want to hear, that the dems win. I believe they are and there is a 2-4% silent minority out there telling the polls one thing and intending to vote for the anti-PC candidate, Trump. Finally, the third variable is Wilileaks and the Clinton campaign. I am certain both groups have some perceived blockbuster just waiting to be revealed. If the Clinton campaign cannot stop the 24/7 hammering on the FBI report by tomorrow, I expect the dems to move up their 'surprise' to Monday or Tuesday. I figure the Wikileaks folk will wait until Wed or Thursday for their biggest stuff...

    So, today's prediction....Trump wins by 4-5 (too big a win for dem fraud to overcome it). The GOP loses 1 or 2 senate seats but comfortably holds the Senate. The House is never in danger....
     
  20. pol meister

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    As I recall, I understated my prediction back then, and was happy to see the Republicans do better than I predicted. I also know that this presidential election is a very difficult one to predict, with polls all over the place. As of today, I think the absolute best Trump can do is to win by 2.4%, and the worst he can do is to lose by 3.6%. But there are still about 10 days to go, and a lot of things can change, so I think I'm going to wait until Nov. 7th to make my pick.
     
  21. JIMV

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    in this race 10 days is a lifetime....Heck, Clinton is so obviously sick it really could be a 'life time'...
     
  22. Andrew Jackson

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    Hillary is STILL a LOCK.
     
  23. Steady Pie

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    What are you talking about? The election is now completely unpredictable. You are delusional.

    She's 1.6% ahead of the margin of error, but those polls are from before Comey's revelations. She could drop 20 points, she could drop 2. Nobody knows.
     
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    I have never made an election prediction before except in countries where it is a forgone conclusion who will win; places like Turkey, Russia, Singapore and to a lesser degree Japan. But now I will put whatever abilities I have to the test and make a prediction on Wednesday morning in the timezone where I am about the US Presidential election. At that time it will be exactly one week before I will be watching the returns on CNN.

    They say a week is a long time in politics, and there have been so many surprises in this very long election that I do not dare make a prediction more than a week before the election. By then any surprises will not have enough time to effect the polls short of course to a surprise that stops the election from taking place God forbid.

    So stay tuned for Wednesday morning/Tuesday evening when I'll put my skills to the test. If I get the prediction wrong, I'll never again make another election prediction.
     
  25. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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