Electric Cars

It has long been a top performing state, as to the economy.

I don't know how many know this, but a great deal of the USA's defense infrastructure is in Colorado. The most famous is NORAD, but there is a great deal more. There are a lot of underground bunkers. The national archives are there and other facilities, so that in case of war, if the East Coast were threatened, critical members of the government could bunker down in Colorado, and have all the resources on hand, as if they were in DC.

 

The Front Range has a horrible pollution problem. They were overpopulated 20 years ago, and more people keep moving there.

 

I don't know that Colorado is leading or has led the country as to the economy. OK you have NORAD so what, we build Saturn V rockets and the future launch vehicles. My son is at Central Command in Florida. The national archives are in DC you have an offsite storage. Maybe you need to travel the country a little more you might discover the rest of us are pretty amazing too.

 

You do realize that boulder is smack dab in the center of it.. But boulder is nice, I have a friend that is working at some mine close to it, keeps trying to talk me in to going there and working, lol. I guess they are so hard up that they hire old lazy bastards like me

I told him, "how about you just take me fishing"

Now Fort Collins is a rush, all College kiddies and hippies, OLD SCHOOL hippies and dispensaries. Im in and out of there in like a eight hours round trip.. Interesting mix that town is..

 

All of the Titan rockets have been built in Colorado. I'm pretty sure that there are more National Laboratories in Colorado than any other state. The atomic clock that everything is timed to is in Colorado.

It is also possible to mine more types of minerals, metals, and gem stones than anywhere else. There are even areas where one can pick up uranium ore, just lying on the ground.

The high tech industry is quite robust in Colorado, especially in the Boulder area. Computer hard drives were largely developed in Colorado, as was 3D graphics. Tofu was invented there.

In the aftermath of WW2, the Federal government thought that the coasts were too vulnerable to attack. At the time, almost all Federal government operations were run out of either DC or San Francisco. It was because of this that they began to move operations to Colorado. All of the information that is generated in DC is copied to secure locations in Colorado, as in an all out war, Colorado is perhaps the most difficult to attack.

The Air Force Academy is in Colorado.

Here is a good description of Colorado's economy.

https://www.csbj.com/2019/03/19/study-colorado-5th-most-innovative-in-nation/

 

They stock all the resevoirs and lakes with trout. In some places high up in the mountains, the lakes are extremely clear, so much that any fish can be easily seen.

I left Colorado because I wanted to get away from the crowds and pollution. Plus I never liked the dryness of Colorado. I prefer the lush vegetation of Oregon.

 

Exxon says otherwise. This has been in the works for twenty years and is almost price competitive with petro products. The price is down to about $5 a gallon, from over $30 a gallon 13 years ago when I got involved.



Algae produces up to 50 times more fuel per acre year, than options like corn ethanol, which has always been nothing more than bait for heartland voters - government welfare for corn farmers.

 

I have a piece of property near white city.. Southern part of Oregon is the dampest place I have ever been to! Only place I know where sheetrock takes on so much moisture it pulls away from the screws. Even in late August you can walk thru tall grass in the morning and your pants from the knees down and shoes will be soaked.. DAMP damp place, brand new vehicles 8 months old with rust on the chrome.. Not my cup of tea

 

A hundred years from now, citizens of major cities will rely exclusively on public transportation that will be powered by electricity. By the year 2200, private transportation anywhere on Earth will be the domain of the hobbyist.

 

That's swell. But where is the electricity coming from? Nuclear? Because you damn sure aren't going to be able to produce enough with wind and solar. Furthermore, without fossil fuels, good luck making the plastics used in wind and solar products....and good luck plumbing and wiring a home. Back to the stone age.....here we come..yaaa

 

Circling the drain again because you cannot deal with the facts?

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml

EV's are around THREE TIMES more efficient than ICE vehicles.

 

The dearth of subject matter knowledge in your posts establishes that my conclusions are based upon FACTS!

 

Your link only includes from the charging the vehicle to the wheels. It does not include the source ofthe electricity or the grid itself. In the list I provided above, it only includes the last three items, but ignores the first two items.

 

Not going to work unless you have a massive amount of roof space facing south or a few weeks to wait for the EV to be charged.

 

Only if you have enough solar and enough time.

To charge a Tesla in a solar day would require 3200 square feet of roof space facing south, and in the winter with snow or ice on the panels you would never get a charge unless you went up on the roof and cleared all 3200 SF of solar and then you still might not get a full charge because of the shortened solar days of winter.

Or if it rains or is overcast for a few days shutting down the solar.

Solar without over rating and lots of storage is simply too unreliable as an alternate to a grid connect.

 

A major problem is they cannot be used to replace over the road trucks, they only work when they can go home at night to be recharged.

Local delivery maybe, over the road interstate trucking not happening.

 

By the way. Even if the electricity just magically appeared at the charger, your statement is wrong. You said the electrical vehicle is three times MORE efficient. That would mean the electrical vehicles is four times AS efficient.

 

Bogus, natural gas or more accurately CNG per GGE is more expensive than gasoline, plus it requires a huge amount of area to install the storage tanks, AT&T introduced a fleet of CNG vehicles in 2012, at the time the standard technician vehicle was a Chevy Astro Van which got about 16/22 MPG, in order to be able to run CNG they had to go to Ford E-250's which on CNG got 12/16 MPG.


Another huge problem with natural gas is the compressor stations required to pump it up to 3600 PSI to fuel the CNG vehicles with, these setups are massing and draw a huge amount of electricity totally negating and carbon reduction of running natural gas.

 

And with an expanded distribution grid to charge EV's an night more will be wasted.

 

Totally false, there are too many variables for a hundred miles to work, here in Florida we just went through that BS.
EVERYONE with an electric vehicle would be able to have it FULLY CHARGED before they evacuated and be able to go at least as far as the range allowed.

Tesla actually sent out a LINK to EXTEND the range of all of their vehicles in Florida when a hurricane was about to hit.[/QUOTE]

 

Or all the panels are iced over and shut down.

Of course they could pull power from the grid to defrost the panels, yea right.

 

Again those are bogus numbers, right not natural gas is $2.79 GGE while gas is $2.29 per gallon.

 

With A/C motors the voltage doesn't vary the current will, also with synchronous motors the RPM is locked to the frequency of the power, this is why A/C variable speed drives have to change the frequency to vary the motors speed.

 

Onus remains ENTIRELY on YOU to PROVE that the cost of producing electricity EXCEEDS the cost of FINDING, DRILLING, EXTRACTING, TRANSPORTING, REFINING, STORING, SHIPPING and SELLING gasoline.

So far you haven't produced SQUAT so you have nothing, as usual.

 

PROVE that it does not work!