Elizabeth Warren releases DNA test with 'strong evidence' of Native American ancestry

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    So his masters landed him a job as a secretary?
     
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    Then you are admitting to speak from a position of almost complete ignorance. There have been numerous threads on this topic and almost everyone of them has links explaining the situation and all you have to do is go read them and get up to speed. It seems like you are really only here to somehow bash Trump over this. But let's be clear, it was Elizabeth Warren who got all this started by lying to begin with, then using it to gain financially and politically. To try and berate the President for calling her out is ludicrous. She should be impeached from her position in government for pretending to be a minority and Harvard should be calling her out, not defending her. This surpasses politics and delves into an arena that somehow lying about your ethnicity is OK. Just another liberal getting away with lying and cheating.

    You kick and scream and cry over Trump not releasing his tax returns (which he is legally entitled to withhold) citing him as racist and misogynist, yet you completely ignore a white woman pretending to be a minority to further her own career. She didn't just use it to her advantage, at times she literally shoved it peoples faces to score points and as a platform to gain support and sympathy. The hypocrisy in this just proves that the love of your own party is more important than anything.

    The sad fact is that the Democrats have been completely ignoring these lies and coupled with the complete incivility they are showing are putting America at risk. Since when did it become OK to just lie about being a Cherokee Indian? Democrats are crossing into a realm that is very dangerous right now.
     
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    No I have a great work at home job, and my grammar was perfectly fine for an online forum. Still cant get on topic huh? Even 1/1024 on topic?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they have nothing else, the cult of Trump is desperate
     
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    Still can't accept that anyone thinks the topic is anything but foolish. I can't count the number of times democrats on the forum have told me Donald Trump isn't living rent free in their heads. Voila' enter she-buffoon Liz Warren. Nope ... Trump hasn't gotten under anyones skin. Not at all.
     
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    I didn't feel any need to make any comment on Warren OR Trump in here but I took your comment about my 'stepping up' as an invitation. Did I misunderstand? Apologies if so.

    Beyond that, my point was to wonder out loud if the Warren 'thing' even constituted a conversation, or is this a product of the claim of 'Native American Heritage' being conflated with a claim of 'Native American Ethnicity' which I've yet to see that she actually made beyond checking a box in a college registry which keeps being cited on here as some important thing, but nobody that I've seen has said why.

    On the Trump commentary, a week as absurd as his makes it even harder to understand why I'm supposed to care about Warren's claimed Native American heritage, which seems massively benign in comparison.

    I'm sorry you feel projected on.
     
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    Sure, if by "stepping up" you interpreted that as "I'll say I don't have an opinion and complain about other stuff".

    Of course it constituted a conversation, as we have 23 pages of conversation.

    If you don't think there's something wrong with one of the whitest women in the US claiming to be Native American, and using opportunities reserved for Native Americans, then you don't see the clear confliction that causes with the left's identity politics.

    SHE was the one making the claim that she was Native American, not Trump. He's simply, and rightfully so, pointing out their hypocrisy, and indirectly the hypocrisy from others trying to defend it, like you.

    You see, if Warren is "Native American", then so is every person in the United States. We're also all "African American".

    If that's the case, then the racist drum the left likes to beat on doesn't even exist.
     
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    Fauxcohontas scalped any chance she had to be Presudent with this moronic stunt.

    But it is fun watching libs try to convince sane people she actually is a native American.
     
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    LMAO damn man you sure nailed it. XD
     
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    This is the quickest example of political suicide since Howard Dean....BYAAAAAH
     
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    well we know many republicans have no issue with Trumps racists remarks against her and will vote for him no matter what.. sad!
     
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    Amusing that the left sees Elizabeth Warren's cultural appropriation as harmless but yet can condemn a high school girl for wearing a Chinese dress to her prom. #IDIOTS

    BTW, Warren's claim that she identified as American Indian ancestory because she wanted to meet others like herself was another lie. When given the opportunity to do so, she passed.

    Cherokees travel to Mass but Elizabeth Warren refuses to meet them

    Four outraged Cherokee activists who say Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has ignored their emails and phone calls will trek to Boston this week in hopes they can force a meeting with the Democratic Senate candidate over her “offensive” Native American heritage claims.

    “It’s almost becoming extremely offensive to us,” said Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist who has researched Warren’s family tree. “We’re trying to get in contact and explain why her behavior hurts us and is offensive, and she totally ignores that. Like we don’t exist.” …

    What they want, Barnes said, is for Warren to sit down with them and to stop claiming she’s a Native American.

    “We would like to see her look at the documentation and admit there’s no Indian ancestry there and then apologize,” Barnes saud. “Hear us. Acknowledge us. Know that she’s brought us into this. We didn’t bring ourselves into this. This whole trip was planned to get a meeting with her.”

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2012/...ss-but-elizabeth-warren-refuses-to-meet-them/
     
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    yeah, that is what we thought when Obama released his birth certificate in 2008, the Cult of Trump only cares about "Alternative Facts" not reality
     
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    as I have said in reparations threads, if you have any dna that is African American in your dna, you should qualify for reparations... reparations are not for you, they are for your ancestors family tree, if your part of that family tree, you deserve the same as everyone else that is part of their family tree

    btw, not every black person gets a invite to Harvard, you have to have the grades too go with that dna
     
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    She's sorry. She got it bass ackward. She meant.........

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    yet some Trump supporters support people that murder members of the Press - how can Trump defend people that murder members of the press?

    why does Trump call the press the enemy of the people?
     
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    Would she be doing this as a Cherokee as she claimed to be? Or just a white person who may have a 10th generation uncle that possibly was native american?
     
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    would Trump care? Trump thinks the press is the enemy of the people... sad!

    Trump could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and would not lose a vote from the cult of Trump
     
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    Yes, I did admit that.

    I've seen a bit of it, and didn't see anything being said that suggested that this is the issue you and others are making it out to be.

    Not 'Only'.

    Did she claim Native Heritage or Native Ethnicity? There's a difference that seems to be being ignored in these threads.

    My impression was that that had been debunked, no?

    Considering all the dumba**ness and non-inegrity being perpetrated by Trump, it strikes me as fair to get a laugh out of his calling anyone else out as disingenuine.

    The worst thing that I've seen that she did was mark herself as Native American in a college registry. I still don't know why that is important and I wouldn't have thought that that would be an impeachable offense.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Harvard has a better understanding of the situation than you do, and will tentatively put my confidence in their judgement over yours.

    I'm gonna go back again and ask if she claimed Native American Ethnicity, or Heritage. My suspicion is that she claimed heritage and is being accused of having claimed ethnicity.

    Me?

    OK, but giving him credit for transparency in the mean while seems a bit nonsensical.

    Yes.

    again, did she claim Native American Ethnicity, or Heritage? And where are the facts that any of this furthered her career? The only credible information that I've seen has been to the contrary.

    I must have missed that.

    Fake News. I was happy to see Franken step down, for example, once I knew he had actually done something inappropriate. I just don't happen to have confidence in your take on the Warren situation.

    You did see what The president has been up to lately right? I mean, on the whole 'lying and incivility' front...

    I'm not sure that she did. But hey, as long as we're here, are as you as bothered by the President's son lying about the purpose of his meeting with Russian Representatives which took place in the Presidents building during the campaign, or the President lying about payoffs that he made to a porn star during the campaign? 'cause those seem a little more serious to me than which box in a college registry Warren checked off 40 years ago.

    The guy who is representing us in Nuclear Negotiations just had an oval office summit with Kanye West then called the pornstar he lied about paying off during his campaign 'horseface'. I'm thinking there might be larger issues right now than whether or not Elizabeth Warren claimed to be an Indian.
     
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    I'm just saying. If she were killing someone as a Cherokee, the left would probably defend her, as she'd be a minority. But since she's white, if she killed someone, the left would be up in arms.

    I'm asking what your perimeters are for her killing a member of the press. Is she the Cherokee she used to be, or the white woman she's proven to be?

    Thank you for clarification.
     
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    the left doesn't cheer people making death threats, the right put Trump in office

    the left would not support her if she killed a member of the press, Trump should not support people that kill members of the press either

    the Press is not the enemy of the people, no matter how many time Trump as President declares them to be
     
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    Not sure what you're going on about but it sounds like you're just making crap up now. Who is cheering the press getting killed?
     
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    I think I was suggesting that this might not be as important as the 'other stuff'.

    I know that you had a 23 page conversation, what I don't know is if one was constituted.

    Actually, I'm wondering how one of the whitest women in America was supposedly able to pass herself off as a Native American at one of the best colleges in the world? I'm guessing she didn't. I'm guessing that she claimed Native American heritage and the right, yet again, misconstrued a scenario and turned that scenario into something to yammer about.

    Again... Heritage vs Ethnicity... nuance... anybody?

    The idea of Trump being rightful in calling out hypocrisy would be really funny, if not for the fact that you're probably a voter, in which case it's a little sad.

    You write with a tone like you want to be taken seriously, and undermine that with a comment like this. I haven't defended Warren. If she's posed as a minority to gain unfair advantage, then I say screw her just like I said screw Franken on his deal. (would you say Screw Trump?) It's not defending Warren to voice the suspicion that your take on this situation is wrong and that you're arguing from a false premise. If she's guilty of what you say, then screw her. I'm just not taking Your word for it, at least not yet.

    Fascinating.

    I can't dispute your point on that one, but only because I have no idea what that point actually is.
     
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    The press isn't the enemy. It's just dishonest most of the time and swings stories to sway opinion.
     
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    Of course she did. Harvard's own publications brag about her being "a woman of color".

    It of course matters because minority groups receive privileges, by law, that she did not qualify for.

    There is no nuance. She has no Native American Heritage nor does she have any Native American Ethnicity.

    If you don't believe me, you're welcome to ask the Cherokee Nation for their opinion.

    As usual though, white liberals are going to speak for minority groups and ignore their stance on the issue.

    Yes, I voted for Trump. I'm glad I did. I'll vote for him and the things he's doing. What's sad is how you can't put two sentences together without talking about Trump.

    You are defending it. You're trying to downplay it and pretending like you don't see the point, just like the rest of the leftists in this thread.
     
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