Elizabeth Warren releases DNA test with 'strong evidence' of Native American ancestry

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  1. William Dlwgosh

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    Fair Point actually. I'd be curious to hear what the deal is on that.

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that you don't know that. I'm definitely sure that you don't know whether or not she honestly believed that she had a Native American in her family history.

    None? Or very little?

    The Cherokee Nation very understandably stated that Warren doesn't have the right to claim Cherokee ethnicity, I still don't see credible source that she Did actually make that claim. The closest I've seen is a 40 year old college registry, which doesn't exactly strike me as an important document, or even as a formal claim of Native ethnicity.

    I honestly don't even know which minority group I'm supposedly arguing on behalf of, but as I know that I'm not actually arguing on behalf of Any minority group and don't see any sensibility to suggesting that I am, I'm just going to chuckle, dismiss your comment, and move on.

    Then I don't see how you feel non-hypocritical in calling out a politician for being dishonest and exploitive for personal gain.

    It's disheartening that so much of what is said on this board in general, and by you in particular is not 'actual'.

    Nope. We've been over this, see above.

    What I don't see is credible sources that make the case that you want to say is obvious. I'm not saying that they don't exist. I am saying that I haven't seen them and that you haven't pointed them out. This is the same reason that I didn't assume Kavanaugh sexually assaulted anybody, no corroborating credible sources.

    You come across as way to biased and disinterested in what is 'actual' to put any stock in your impressions of whatever counter arguments you've run in to here.
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Dems are FAMOUS for "leveling the playing field" when they hold a double digit advantage a couple weeks out. It is astounding.
     
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    Yes grades matter. Harvard sets different standards based on that DNA. Lower SAT scores for blacks, natives, and Hispanics are accepted. At least according to William Fitzsimmons (30-year dean of admissions at Harvard).

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-...s-different-sat-standards-for-asian-americans

    Please send me my reparations check via Paypal.
     
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    This is all really important.
     
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    dave8383 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    What do today's soldiers do? They sit around on their computers and argue over how much native American blood a senator has.
     
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    They certainly don't whine like little girls when confronted about a senator who claimed to be half Cherokee.
     
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    Looks like that's exactly what they do.
     
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    It's tough for you. I understand your predicament.

    You support this woman, want to vote for her, but have to live with the fact that she claimed to be a "minority" and that she was "half Cherokee".

    That's worse than tax returns :)
     
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    It's tough for you, I understand your predicament, to debate someone who could care less about her one way or the other. And rightly so.
     
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    If you couldn't care less, why are you complaining about her being confronted with the truth?

    Why are you even in this thread if you couldn't care less?
     
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    Twisting in the wind are you?
     
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    Absolutely Dave. As much as I'd like to listen to you try and defend Chief Warren, I have a 3 year old dog to adopt. I've been very excited about it all week. Ain't nothin' gonna get me down today :)

    BTW if you're interested, the USO can sometimes sponsor you for AGC's (for adopting obviously). Give them a call and see if you can find a furry friend to adopt. They take care of all the shots and provide a crate, bowls..etc.

    What a great day today is
     
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    Then I would suggest that you actually get up to speed on the subject before asking a series of questions laced with interjection and opinion. It makes for a more engaging conversation when the two people (or more engaged) can actually speak from a position of knowing about the topic at hand.
     
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    If this were Trump, you'd be losing your mind right now. Especially if he did it to gain favor and wealth, like Elizabeth Warren.

    Soldiers probably don't sit around pretending to be Cherokee Indians to get ahead in life and publishing plagiarized recipes in a cookbook. :)
     
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    More important stuff.
     
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    BAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    "Lizzie 'Notaninjun' Warren has own-goaled herself so badly that down in the Twitter sewers, even hardcore progs are saying 'you know, I hate Trump and everything he stands for, but he sure owned Warren.' No Dems will defend her, Republicans are laughing at her, real Native Americans despise her and are telling her to just shut up. And her nascent 2020 presidential campaign is now a flaming pile of wreckage. Which is kind of sad, because she's still delusional enough to think she can take on Trump in 2020 and it would be very entertaining to watch that debacle.

    Oh, and speaking of national laughingstocks, did you hear the latest about the creepy porn lawyer? According to the L.A. Times, a federal bankruptcy judge issued a restraining order late Wednesday to block the firm of Michael CPL Avenatti, the lawyer for porn star Stormy 'Horseface' Daniels, from spending any fees it collects while it owes more than $10 million in unpaid debts and back taxes. The restraining order covers 54 cases.

    My question is, why does everyone who goes against Trump end up hurting themselves? It's absolutely uncanny. If I were the president, I would be on my knees every night, thanking God that my enemies are so stupid."


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    Source?
     
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    I think Post #452 is three hand clapping emojis.

     
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    What he means is, she claimed to be a "minority" to gain tenure at Harvard.

    She admits this.

    She also admits to claiming to be half Cherokee.
     
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    Source?
     
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    #450
     
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    You got it!

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/

    She never specified according to Harvard "Which" minority group she belonged to on this occasion. But she is proven to have listed herself as a minority.

    Here's a nice liberal source for you:

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html

    Now, any more questions?
     
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    I don't have any doubt that she listed herself, which is obviously unimpressive. I don't see the part where she used her supposed cherokee heritage to gain favor and wealth though.
     

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