Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    She passed and no amount to denial is going to alter that scientific fact!
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

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    So she is, as she claimed, a Cherokee Indian after all? Nonetheless, there are many who still believe she speaks with a forked tongue.
     
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    Okay what Native American tribal group claims her for membership and I mean with a card and rights of a Native American of the given group, the Seminoles here is Florida and I suspect is the norm demands proven family lineage to no less than one quarter Seminole blood. I suspect other tribes are similar. So no she is not in any way a Native American she has some distant ancestry. I have 7% African blood I'm more African American than she is Native America so can I write in I'm Black for the benefits?

    https://www.semtribe.com/FAQ/
     
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  4. Ritter

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    By that account, I have a Native American ancestor too since my brother's DNA-test showed a far larger number than 0,1024%. Are you really going to defend that a bloodline with no connection to America has a Native American ancestor?
     
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    Okay she has some Native Ancestry to some Native Person in the Americas way back okay now the big question which Tribal Group is she a recognized member of? To be a Seminole Indian and be a member of that nation you need proven by records one quarter or stronger ancestry this is not a blood test alone but also records of birth and witnesses if needed so isn't simple as here is my test let me in the Tribe. She did if I recall put on her college application Native American ancestry what the hell unless she holds Native Citizenship she had no right to do so and it was fraud.
     
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    https://www.powwows.com/much-percentage-native-american-enrol-tribe/

    :roflol:
     
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  7. Ritter

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    That cannot be certainly clarified from her DNA-results. What they show is that she may as well be the purest of pure of, what Hitler would have called, übermensch.
     
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    So she MIGHT have had an Indian ancestor born as "recently" as 1868? The scientific fact is that the DNA "strongly indicates" - not "conclusively establishes " this watery connection. Wow. Now THAT's what I call an Indian!!

    Trump wanted her to prove, during the debates, that she's "an Indian." (Look up the quote. )

    She ain't. All the footstomping and raindancing and smoke signaling you like doesn't change this scientific fact.
     
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  10. Pollycy

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    Some say 20 years, some say as much as 40 years is a 'generation'. Search the internet long enough and you can find whatever definition you want. No matter how you spin it though, using the most charitable, Warren-friendly calculus, she's no more than 1/64th Native American. And, even libs acknowledge that in order to be a "minority" one must be at least 1/32nd of whatever the "minority" percentage present in one's DNA actually is.

    Again, by the most Warren-friendly calculation, hers is HALF the 'requirement' to be a "minority". :roll:

    Aside: haven't we FINALLY approached a point where we Americans rid ourselves of all this "Affirmative Action" (Reverse-discrimination) bullshit and the perverse obsession we've had since the 1970's with race -- and instead become what Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. suggested -- a colorblind society where we are judged purely on the content of our CHARACTER. And, I would suggest that anyone who has used an wildly-exaggerated claim to being a "minority" in order to get an advantage over others has no worthwhile CHARACTER at all....
     
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    You're WAY off-topic now (me, too), and I suggest that you open a new thread. I know from past experience how much you dislike it when I go off-topic....

    Nevertheless, I'll say this (briefly): Kennedy faced a lot of opposition from both Republicans (who hated him), and also from a large faction within his own Democrat Party (who also hated him). He was trying his very best to lead us forward, into a new, prosperous post-WWII phase which we needed badly after the previous Eisenhower administration had sagged into a state of lassitude. He had less than three years in office.

    I know you'll bristle at the comparison, but it really DOES remind me a bit of the difficulties that President Trump faces today -- with rabidly hateful opposition from radical Democrats, and foot-dragging, uncooperative inaction from RINO's within the Republican Party. But, let's save all this for another thread. I don't want to be the cause of forcing the Moderators to swoop in here and delete all of our posts for being off-topic....
     
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    Guys, this is a wonderful topic and very worthy of discussion, but I strongly suggest that someone starts a new thread for it. This thread topic is about the self-aggrandizing fraud perpetuated by 'Dizzy Lizzy' Warren to establish and enrich her career, by playing the "minority" card.

    If we keep on being off-topic, I can tell you from experience that the Moderators will swoop in and delete ALL of our off-topic posts. 'Nuff said....
     
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    So Kennedy was an Indian, too?

    Hey, just trying to save your posts from the mod police, lol.
     
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    She flunked.
     
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    If your percentage of x is in the range of 1%, it is really hard to claim any sort of lineage to the given group. I cannot believe that a woman of Warren's background and intelligence could see a result of 0,1024% as a triumph and as proof of her Amerindianess.

    Warren's family probably just have had a family myth that started as a joke at a Christmas dinner one year, "Oh, John you are so dark,! We must have some Indian in us. Ha-ha!" and then, over the years, this story was retold and changed and eventually became "there is some Cherokee in our family." There are plenty of these stories in many families and most people are smart enough to know it is just a silly tall tale.
     
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    Ivanka Trump is part Australian Aboriginal. :D

    (But, her daddy and mommy are not)
     
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    Well, I would think (or at least hope) people who lie on their applications are in the minority, so - technically - Warren is still a minority. :)
     
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    Elizabeth has a fine case to prove she is white. She comes close to pureblood.
     
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    This country forgot this part of history but after reading my own family history I know why some claimed to be native tribe. The Feds whipped out millions of dollars to pay reparations to the tribes. If you could claim you had native, you could collect cash once they accepted your claim. In the case of my family, they were turned down and collected no cash. Still the myth lingered for a few more generations.
     
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    So her family stories were True, and Trump owes her charities a million dollars. What are the odds he ever pays a cent?
     
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    Indeed; few more generations, and she would have had to claim to be a member of chimpanzee tribe. 6 to 10 is sensible.
     
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    Pocahontas family stories... retold through 6 to 10 generations... must be true :)
     
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    They were 0,1024% true, bro. That makes'em lies.
     
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    Which of her true family stories did you enjoy the most?
     
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    When Trump promised to pay, he moved the goal posts prior to her tests. His final offer was he would provide her test. I dunno about her test since she went off the path most others use for a so called test. Notice we never saw her test.

     

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