Energy Sec. Granholm dodges questions on gas crisis as aides whisk her away, block camera

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  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Because the last time the left lost that big there was literally months worth of coast to coast rioting.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Against outright liars? Absolutely

    Strange company you keep
     
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    Would you say that there wouldn't be inflation if Trump had won in 2020?
     
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    WRONG...
    Give me a break...:bored:

    PS (IF any "Riots" happen, they will no doubt be the work of RW False Flag Actors)...
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I'd suggest that no one can answer that question with any certainty. But what we can know is that during his administration at least, inflation wasn't running at over 7%, and sure was wasn't looking to spike at between 13-17% which is what estimates are now suggesting. And when you factor in the idea that RBOBGas and bbl oil are double, meaning 100% inflation, well, I doubt that a Trump second term would have done much, if anything that would have resulted in those results. Speculate if you will, but that is all it would be worth. Which is why I will tell you again that no one could positively assure you that the current results would not happen. Ask a question a little differently, and say, had the existing policies of the trump administration continued (which there weren't because Biden ham handedly changed them) should we expect these results. To which, I'd say, no. We shouldn't see these kinds of market instability. I can say that. Can you tell me how we got from that expectation to what we're seeing now in just the first year of the Biden administration? I can.
     
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    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a economic expert by any means, but I know that I noticed inflation starting to rear it's ugly head in 2020, early in the year. Shrinkflation also. But I attributed it mostly to all the Covid mess. I also think big companies are taking advantage of the situation. I figured out that oil companies don't care much about the price of oil, but what they want is the prices to go up and down. They make more money when the oil prices fluctuate. If oil prices spike, the gas prices increase instantly, that day. If they drop, it takes days or weeks to drop. Kind of like stockbrokers and gambling bookies, as long as it's moving, they are making more money.
    I personally don't feel like Trump was the cause of inflation, but I could take some statistics and make it look like it. I think inflation would be about the same regardless of who won the 2020 election.
    But like you said, there is no way to know for sure. Just that I don't really see a reason why it would be different, given that most of inflation is controlled by the retail companies and the customers.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP how lame.

    Trump took hours and hours of questions.

    Address tthe now instead of desperate excuse attempts
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    LA, Denver, San Fran, San Jose, Reno, San Diego, Portland, Philadelphia, Louisville, Baltimore, Seattle, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, just to name a few. There was a solid 3 months of riots popping off all over the nation.

    But you go ahead and deny it. Just like you deny that Democrats spent 4 years claiming the election was stolen. Just like you'll deny the rioting that will break out before this year is finished.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Tell me more about Russian collusion. Tell me more about Kavanaugh assaulting women. Tell me more about 'fine people on both sides'. Tell me more about bleach and nooses at 3am in the freezing cold. Tell me more about how men are actually women. Tell me more about how we can have ~$50 trillion worth of free **** programs without devaluing our currency or raising taxes. Tell me more about how White children are born 'racist'. Tell me more about its ok to have people prove who their are for the 500+ things that require identification but not for voting because that's 'racist'.

    I could literally all night doing this, but the point is clear: leftists are not immune to moonbat lies and insane conspiracy theories. But what they are immune to is censorship. Just as people on the right propagate their bullshit, people on the left do so as well only their platforms are massive by comparison and welcoming to every ounce of myth and lie so long as it benefits the left.
     
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    I seem to remember when leftists got upset that Trump or someone under him would refuse to answer questions to the media. Now its "meh, big deal". Just goes to show that hypocritical nature of parties when they get into power.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was Russian collusion
    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/18/9035...aul-manafort-shared-campaign-info-with-russia
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder?amp

    What media organizations asserted that Kevanaugh was guilty?

    The “very fine people on both sides” did happen but was taken out of context as was the injecting bleach (disinfectant)

    There were nooses at both the Jan 6 insurrection as well as several other right wing COVID protests.

    Gender is a social construct as per the dictionary

    We need to raise our taxes especially on those that can most easily afford it by removing loopholes and special tax rates, Democrats push for this and Republicans tight against it

    I have never seen a news company say whites are born racist. Can you source your claim?


    Yes, I know you could spend all day regurgitating talking points the right wing media has fed you but almost none of these are on the topic of a media / news organization employing outright liars to push there narrative. Liars that the organization itself say only a complete moron would believe what they say — and here you are not only believing it but repeating it.

    Embarrassing
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I told the right the worst thing about a trump presidency was going to be the things that were normalized.

    They sold their soul to worship the embodiment of the seven deadly sins. Quite ironic
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You think this started under Trump? Hmm...I have a bridge to sell ya.....PM me for details....
     
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    Biden Energy Secretary Quietly Bullies US Refiners To Reduce European Fuel Exports
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    "Granholm’s bullying of energy companies shows how little she understands about energy markets."

    Idiots convinced of their own brilliance.

    'US Nat Gas exports had exploded as Europe has grown increasingly desperate for nat gas now that Russia has' become an untrustworthy gas supplier just as Trump warned.

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    Leftists that pretend to remain confused over the basic concept that supply shortages drive inflation:

    "gas exports in the form of LNG were up by 674 billion cubic feet or 87% in the first three months of 2022 compared with the same period in 2019."

    "But domestic production increased by only 433 billion cubic feet (5%)"

    And what happens when demand jumps 87% but supply only increases 5%?

    "After adjusting for inflation, front-month futures prices climbed in May to their highest since November 2008, on the eve of the financial crisis and great recession."

    And that's the problem, when supply does not match demand, inflation ignites and burns the whole thing down.

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    Even as Biden is dumping the SPR, 'Granholm warned that gasoline inventories on the East Coast are at a near-decade low, and diesel stocks are nearly 50% below the five-year average across the region. And while she didn't address it - as the SPR drain is hardly something the White House is proud of - total crude oil inventories including the SPR have seen a spectacular collapse.'

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    Now Granholm is demanding uS producers cut exports to energy starved Europe. "The problem isn’t U.S. exports. It’s the political and regulatory assault on U.S. production and refining. One culprit is the 2019 closure of the Philadelphia Energy Solutions refinery, which removed about 335,000 barrels a day of refining capacity from the Northeast. This made the region more dependent on Gulf Coast and overseas refineries."

    "fuel storage levels would be much higher in the Northeast if not for New York state’s natural gas pipeline blockade, which has made the region more dependent on oil for energy. One-third of New England residents still use oil to heat their homes, and New York this month is generating more electricity from oil than from solar or wind.'

    "Granholm export threat is also a slap in the face to European allies trying to diversify energy sources from Russia. Fuel supplies are tight globally amid sanctions on Russia, which had accounted for 40% of Europe’s oil imports. Europe has had to look elsewhere for diesel fuel, which some manufacturers and power generators are turning to as a substitute for natural gas. U.S. refiners have recently been exporting more fuel to Europe, but Granholm is now telling them to stop.'

    "Granholm’s bullying of energy companies shows how little she understands about energy markets."

    Remember how she laughed at the thought of working to reduce the energy prices for Americans? But, now that it threatens her politically, she now asserts her authority in the dumbest most damaging manner possible.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The nerve of these peasants, asking such questions of their betters... Royalty are not to be questioned, simply obeyed.
     

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