England Knife, Gun, Rape Attacks and Homicide Continue Rapid Rise

" “High-harm” violent offences involving weapons are soaring in England and Wales, as a crime wave continues, with knife and gun crime, as well as homicide, shooting up.
Meanwhile, police also recorded 31 percent more rapes, up to 53,977, and 21 percent more other sexual offences, rising to 96,755.

The revelations, from the latest official figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), show offences involving knives or sharp instruments rising by 16 percent to 40,147 – the fourth consecutive increase in knife attacks revealed by the ONS.
The figures are police-recorded crimes for the year to March, and also show homicides rose 12 percent by 74 to 701 in the period, even with exceptional incidents with multiple victims such as the terror attacks in London and Manchester not included.

Gun crime also rose, but at a less dramatic rate than knife crime, with a two percent increase to 6,492 offences while the number of robberies soared by 30 percent to 77,103 in the 12-month period."

This from a country where gun control failed so they implemented knife control....sheer genius



Source: https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/19/england-knife-gun-rape-attacks-homicide-continue-rising/

 

Hmm, I wonder when we're going to start seeing middle class flight and urban decay, like what happened in the U.S. in many large cities in the late 70s and 80s.

Maybe London will start de-gentrifying.

 

'England, this England'? How I curse the liberals for bringing my country so low.

 

CSEW, the data used for trends, shows no general upward rise.

Of course we'd expect some increases in crime. Police resources have suffered because of the stupidity of austerity, reducing detection rates and therefore deterrence.

Non story for this sub forum mind you. It's like you can't grasp relevance....

 

Given that the UK has never had any extensive gun culture or widespread private gun ownership, that gun laws haven’t changed over the periods these figures are being compared and that the vast majority of the quoted statistics cover things with have nothing to guns, what exactly is the relevance of your posting this here?

 

The extent some will go to in order to avoid having to say that people themselves are the problem.

 

Gun crime is down. Perhaps that's the message?

 

Brightfart - you know I googled this and it seems that they run the SAME story about every 12 months

Even thier fake news is recycled lols!

 

Probably shows the lack of effectiveness of gun laws, and the fact that gun homicides have a lot more to do with social & demographic factors than they do with what type of gun control laws a country has.

 

Why worry? Would these stats stop you visiting the UK?

 

I wouldn't visit the UK. Despite the good work by Four In A Bed, accommodation expenses just aren't justified. I'm sure the NRA would agree!

 

What is the cause, though? that is the unanswered question.

 

Probably hard to get ammo.

 

There's a lot of assumption there. You can't really assess the effectiveness of specific gun laws or gun laws in general by simply looking at broad (and selective) recorded crime statistics. It's possible that without the UK gun laws as they are, the situation could be much worse - we simply don't know.

It's undeniable that there will be multiple factors involved in any individual crime, let alone across the board in general. That fact alone is no reason to automatically dismiss any one factor out of hand though. One of the advantages we have in the UK is that we're not blinkerdly obsessed with guns (positively or negatively) so it doesn't become a dominating factor in general discussions of serious crime.

 

For what? Reduction in gun crime? I'd be surprised if there was a statistically significant change. I also wouldn't trust the official stats for any trend analysis. It could just reflect changes in report rates.

 

Personally, I am all for an unarmed U.K. populace.

 

Dearming elements in Northern Ireland has certainly been a positive outcome...

 

At least it's over quicker by gun - slowly bleeding to death gives the victim too much time to contemplate the inevitable while waiting for it. Me? If it had to happen then I'll go for gunshot over blade.

 

on the contrary..the trickle down has meant that those areas that were rife with crime are now moving out into the shires. All you have to do is look at the likes of the Medway Towns and the rise in crime from the London gangs that are now moving out.
The issue is still one of cash...funding for policing has been slashed due to "austerity" and until we figure out that we cannot rape the middle classes anymore for tax incomes things have to change. The NHS is a cash sink hole and all the millions of eastern europeans that have come over the last 10 years are draining resources from hospitals, schools and other primary services and infrastructures that all need to be paid for. The police have been a major victim of austerity.

 

so am I but would just say what the fcuk has any of this got to do with armed or unarmed!!
Its about redefining budgetary control and allocation of resources.

 

A couple of problems with that. First, Eastern Europeans tend to be net contributors (being working age and therefore reducing threats of any population time bomb). Second, the problem is actually a deliberate underfunding of the NHS (see GDP shares). This is coupled with enforcers inefficiency through backdoor privatisation.

 

Mate, I don't believe that soundbite how can you have minimum wage earners actually making a viable contribution to the exchequer? I know that we are plied with tales about how they contribute which is true as they pay income tax but based on the wages and the services they consume I'm more than sceptical about the viability of the tax take.
Funding for the NHS is a managed response to demand thus you cannot say its underfunded or over funded its based on the ability to pay for it. We could divert every penny of tax and it would still need more. it grows based on the income it recieves - the more you feed it the bigger it gets thus you need to feed it more so it gets bigger...its a black fcuking bureaucratic hole that needs radical reform. Get rid of it!

It needs privatising!!
The issues are internal not external....How can one clinic have 5 internal NHS companies running just the maintenance and services??? Forget the medical side which is an even bigger balls up in term staffing and procurememt. Spire have one property services organistation which look after all their internal systems - people know who they are responsible to and for what...the NHS...is a byzantine web of organisations within organisations...its a mess.

 

Don’t be fooled by the action movie tropes, fatal gunshot wounds can be just as slow and painful as fatal knife wounds.

 

It's actually bleedin obvious. NHS expense is skewed towards the elderly (made even worse under this cretinous regime, with bed blocking running amok). Eastern Europeans, being economic migrants, tend to be prime aged.

It already is. The effects are not positive. First, it is purely driven by ideological stupidity. For example, we have a literature on efficiency and effectiveness (fed by techniques such as DEA). That finds national heath care more efficient, reflecting issues such as economies of scale. Second, we've already seen the repercussions. Take the contracting out of cleaning services. End result? Infections running amok.

This is particularly ignorant. The organisation problems have been accentuated by enforced privatisation. Take children services and mental care. The system used to rationally integrate admin and medical systems, ensuring a focus on maximising services. With privatisation, we no longer have that. Instead we have private sector call centres following scripts that have 2 purposes: minimise care; maximise 'extra' sales.

The results are horrendous. We no longer have systems designed to provide preventative care. Not surprisingly that leads to knock on social ills, including crime effects (e.g. untreated addiction and subsequent property crime)

 

Could'nt agree more mate!! Wards are full of the terminally befuddled...why...local councils cannot afford to pay the cost of the care required so they get dumped in hospitals....Local authorities have had their funding slashed because there's not enough money!!
We pay gobs of cash for useless friggin nuclear missiles and submarines and aircraft carriers which nobody can use because they cannot get crews, cannot afford the aircraft and fuel and support because theres not enough money!!
We cannot raise enough TAX!!!
Within 2 miles of my house we have at least 10 of these little car wash things in the car parks all with what 10 minions or so all scurrying around with cloths and buckets...and its all cash payment... £15 to £25 per pop....are you seriously telling me that all these Rumanians and Bulgarians are diligently declaring to the tax man their cash earning!!!!??? like fcuk they are.

bolloxs...its all internal clusterfcuks...how can you have 5 thats FIVE NHS companies responsible for cleaning a floor? If you need a lift repaired you cannot imagine the chain of people involved to call the lift engineer...puke on the floor...forms to fill...hazmat gear required...specialist cleaning pellets and fluids....etc...etc. no longer do you just call the janitor with a bucket.

I'm going to take that out of context and agree with you whole heartedly - the whole system is designed to fit a politically correct agenda not a medical agenda.
How do you think you deal with someone who arrives at the front desk and cannot speak english? Please give me your thoughts on what you think has to happen next...bearing in mind privacy issues and confidentiality protocols...

It did and why isn't it now. Because planners have to assess the demographics of the local community and plan for the growth or decline of the population and plan for that. If all of a sudden you get millions of people coming in over a very short period if screws up the plans, budgets and demographics.....schools are under strain...transport, sewage, electricity, housing...etc...etc. etc.
and the tax payer has to respond when the economy is going to shyte because globalisation is fcuking with the economy and Standard and Poors cannot even get their heads around the intrinsic worth of CDS underwritten by AIG.