ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don’t even have COVIDWhat if......

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  1. cabse5

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    Your post is all rhetorical. These Trump suggestions were the result of suggestions from doctors who used these types of treatments you describe in your post to successfully combat Covid infection in patients.

    Side note: I mean for consistency, you must give Trump the same leeway as you give Fauci, for example, when Fauci lauded the scientific method even though the conclusions of said method sometimes brings about opposite conclusions from previous scientific methods on the same subject...The mechanism of the scientific method was the reason Fauci gave for his flip-flopping on mask wearing, for example.

    Second side note: Don't get me started on some of the dopey things Fauci has said: Like the reason why African-Americans get a disproportionate number of Covid infections is because of racism in America...:roll:...I guess one main reason progressives do (or say) anything is because of alleged rampant racism (even for progressive scientists like Fauci).:roll:
     
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    Like I posted previously, why give a **** about number of infections when the US has affective vaccinations? Hum?

    Worry, instead, about the number of chronic hospital cases resulting in severe casualties.:roll:

    Side note: Why worry, for example, if Aaron Rogers has Covid or not? Let Rogers play football even if he has Covid.

    Besides, herd immunity is our friend (for 3/4 of us) even though the CDC/WHO/NIH/Fauci say differently.:roll:
     
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  3. truth and justice

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    I see that you've run away from your great "suggestion" ;)

    I've always said that hospitalisations and deaths from Covid are the stats to be concerned about. Herd immunity has been demonstrated to not be possible when variants rapidly occur. BUT the Delta variant has been the dominant variant for so long that herd immunity maybe approached as long as future variants are very closely related to the Delta variant, and those that have been vaccinated are in the majority having mild symptoms but still infecting others - which is what is needed to achieve herd immunity. Unfortunately the unvaccinated are paying for this herd immunity with their lives
     
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    What is my 'great suggestion' I'm running away from?
     
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    Not true
    Yeah, they do
    Yes, that's what they do. If everyone gets the shot there would be less of the virus around. That's how vaccines work.
    No vaccine does, that's not how they work
    Because the virus is like the common cold and changes all the time. It's not like polio or measles which don't.
    This post shows how you don't know how it works. Yes, it introduces a protein spike TO HELP YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM.
     
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    guess I am not a part of the me me me generation
     
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    that anti-vaxxer nonsense might have worked prior to so many getting the vaccine and seeing the results

    heck, just look at the hospitals, mostly the unvaccinated
     
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    Well, the smart ones are but there is a lot of resistance.
    Not relevant. Off subject
    Yes, it is, but you haven't proved your case.
     
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    How would that be done?
    That wasn't done on purpose.
     
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    False.
    False. What is your proof of Fauci and the conclusions of the scientific method and it's use with mask wearing.
     
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    Science by feels. We've got an expert here folks!!
     
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    Can you show the results?
    If 100,000 people have died instead of 10,000 during the latest spike where is the result?
    The result is that despite of 80% of vaccination, almost exactly the same number of people have died in the third spike as during the first COVID spike.
     
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    LOL Why are you comparing two different events?

    Now to address the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated as posted in different threads:

    And we have for England:
    :
     
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    Just went to the ER today in a major city. 6am. Tumbleweeds...
     
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    People hospitalized with covid don't go to ER. The ICU wards are overwhelmed
     
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    This one wasn't. Parking lots all almost empty as well; I cut straight across. Trust me: Tumbleweeds.
     
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    Besides, I literally demanded to see the ICU when they started in on their vaccine talk. They didn't show me! They didn't even say"trust me it's full". They said literally NOTHING after that (except those that agreed with my Covid "conspiracy" theories who chatted me up in private).
     
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    What results? That more and more vaccinated folks are now dying? Why would you so actively work against the public health?
     
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    Patients in ICU don't need a car
     
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    Of course they won't let you into the ICU ward! Who do you think you are!
     
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    The data from one small town is statistically insignificant. It is essentially a lie.
     
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    I gave links to the whole of England too
     
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    If it was full they would have been angry. They would have told me. Their silence told me everything I needed to know.
     
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    We can only compare apples to apples i.e. two spikes in United States with 330 millions of people.
     
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    just look at the hospitals, mostly the unvaccinated
     

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