ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don’t even have COVIDWhat if......

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  1. Kode

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    Umm.... Does a staff shortage cause more severe cases to come to the hospital?

    :roflol:
     
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    So, yes, there is not point to implement totalitarian policies.
     
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    While some states are seeing an increase in hospitalizations (my state with a 76% fully vaccinated rate), the vast majority of infections and hospitalizations are declining.

    And no worries, liberal states are now signing executive orders allowing for hospitals to not treat non-vaccinated people. Totalitarian in full motion.

    Colorado hospitals can turn away patients amid resurgence in COVID-19 cases
    Polis said his actions will help "address the staffing shortages in hospitals," which he termed "severe."
     
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    I'm just saying: I'm not blaming them for mistakes on their handling of a virus that is new to humanity. I'm blaming them for their high confidence in crushing mandates while simultaneously knowing that they don't, and can't yet, have high confidence in the science.
     
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    Colorado again? They should remember: First, do no harm.

    Even it's a Nazi on the WWII battlefield. Are unvaccinated less than Nazis were?

    And any CO politician involved in ordering physicians to violate their oaths should be shamed out of office forever.
     
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    I'm blaming the CDC/WHO/NIH/Fauci for their incompetence in handling a new virus 'cause, if they'd used common sense, they wouldn't have made so many mistakes. Like the lack of common sense to steer governors away from overly aggressive mandates on everyone and like the lack of common sense to steer governors away from politics.
     
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    I just read where New Mexico is getting 90K doses of vaccine for children. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps the aggressive government buying and the huge stockpile of vaccines is one of the reasons it is being pushed so hard?
     
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    IMO, it's just that governments want to control people. Read my sig.
     
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    That's what I mean. I feel that health agencies and scientists should have been pushing back against politicians on harsh mandates. Maybe say, "Hey, this is new and it's going to be difficult for us to have high confidence in the science regarding many aspects of the virus, but the kind of mandates that politicians are enacting are so invasive and/or extended, that, by their nature, demand the highest level of confidence in the science backing them. And we don't, and can't yet, have it."
     
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    It is being pushed so hard because there is a nefarious agenda in play.

    The agenda is NOT public health. It is eugenics in play, and more.
     
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    Well I'm not ready to go to the deep end of the pool just yet but I find it easy to believe that there is a ton of investment in the vaccines already produced and the contracts already signed. Nobody would want to be blamed for wasting all that money that could be better spent building charging stations for electric cars and stables for unicorns.
     
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    Rather, these agencies and these people were primarily political: WHO/NIH/CDC/Fauci.
     
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    As David Martin has documented, your thoughts about tons of investment in the injections are absolutely valid. The patent records show that such investments were being made long before "the crisis" was announced to the public.

    :angel:
     
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    And maybe just maybe they know more than the likes of Tucker Carlson
     
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    Our colleges have also been corrupted. There is a freezing (it's beyond chilling) effect happening that is inhibiting speech, and hence, the imagination of our scientists/professors. It's yet another dynamic holding the world back on solving Covid.
     
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    But that wasn't your point. Your point was that most of the US is vaccinated and those that choose not to use the excuse of "don't know the long term effects". The same can be said about getting the virus.
    Get the shot
     
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    Covid that you want to solve has already been solved.

    Thank the hard work of David E. Martin.

    This event was planned for years in advance, and brought to you by the World Economic Forum and its members Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab.
     
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    Common cold infection normally occurs every 3 - 8 years, vaccination need to be done every 4 - 6 months.
     
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    I highly doubt too many people are actually worried about overloaded hospital resources because they demand vaccine mandates. They demand all Covid cases be 'quarantined'. They demand vaccination records for fine dining and leisure services, for examples. All demands overload an already taxed hospital system.:roll:
     
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    Fifty-two percent of the US population is most of America. That's what's called a democratic majority.

    You realize that herd immunity is your friend?
    You realize that 25% figure for those highly susceptible to Covid is lowered with affective vaccines?
    You realize that affective quarantines (the highly susceptible from the not so susceptible and the Covid-sick from the non-Covid-sick) lowers that highly susceptible to Covid percentage even further?
     
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    I have no idea what point you're deflecting to.
     
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    You keep using the same faulty math to make some kind of point. It's not working.
     
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    Do you understand that way less than 25% of the American population is highly susceptible to Covid so it's time to open up the economy? No more mandates. No more labor shortages. No more inflation.
     
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    I understand that you're fine with 25% of the population getting covid which is an odd thing in itself but to use that to think the economy will magically be done with labor shortages is totally wrong and that inflation will go down because of no more mask mandates is laughable.
     
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    Your post is a strawman argument. I'm not fine with 25% of the US, for example, dying from Covid infection (that would be approx. 80 million in the US). I'm also not fine with quarantining everyone (or studying every Covid infection) when approx. 25% are highly susceptible to Covid and that percentage of highly susceptible is further reduced with affective vaccines the US possesses and that percentage of highly susceptible is further reduced with proper and affective quarantines.

    You can have perpetual quarantines...Perpetual mandates...Perpetual inflation. I just care for them.:roll:...Open up the economy now. Even though the stooges at the NIH/WHO/CDC/Fauci say otherwise, herd immunity is your friend (and not your enemy).
     
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