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we been up and down the last year, glad your area is doing well and hope you're doing well

 

over 90% of the people in hospitals from covid are the unvaccinated

 

I'll continue to monitor mine, as that is the new standard being used to call me a murderer. It makes it worth the drive.

 

No, it's more likely due to the fact that people were forced to put off healthcare treatment thanks to the malfeasance of governors and lack of leadership from the federal government.

Nearly all governors should be impeached for malfeasance, and once removed from office, they no longer have immunity, so they should be charged with 2nd Degree Murder (Depraved Indifference.)

 

One of the lessons we should learn from all prior pandemics: don't blame your fellow citizens. Not for being odd. Not for race. Not for worshipping different gods. Not even for worshipping different science.

 

yes, pro-lifers often do that, pro-choice is the better way to be

 

Although I'm certain abortion is morally wrong and one of the biggest violation of rights one can commit, I acknowledge that all who do it are not even close to the murderers I have stood face to face with, so I would never call them that.

EDIT: Anymore. When I was younger, I did.

 

And I guarantee I could avoid calling them murderers if I were their leader. I don't even like to do it on anonymous forum.

 

yep, we each make our own choices, we don't have to agree with others choices, but we can't decide for them

 

that is lie.
Or may be vaccinated are dying on the spot, without hospital admission.

 

Ron Johnson is live on a panel now. They say over 17k have died from the vaccine. Brianne Dressen, a vaccine complication survivor, is also speaking. She says the CDC is ignoring her, and the others she has found common cause with. Can't get medical care. The academics who study them can't get their papers published. FB is censoring them.

I believe her. This vaccine crapshow needs to stop before they kill more kids than Covid has. Any government agent pushing for forced vax on kids should be fired immediately.

 

Hmm.. you must be looking at pretty old data. But then, whoever said fear mongers were interested in actual facts or data.

 

That makes you every bit a part of the me-me-me generation...The vaccinated can be infected with Covid (and pass Covid). The vaccinated have a greater chance of not being affected by Covid infection...Of course if you're not highly susceptible to Covid (like 5-11 year olds, for example), you probably don't need a vaccination.

Side note: Oh, are you gonna hypocritically worry about an overextension of hospital resources while you advocate for contact tracing, worrying about all Covid cases, wanting vaccinations for 5-11 year olds and demanding vaccination statuses to eat out and fly on a plane, for examples, which greatly overtaxes hospital resources?

 

Some of us are more perceptive than others Roy. Each person has different skills in life. Not all people are able to see through the propaganda. Don't worry, life goes on.

 

There aren't a lot who're unvaccinated in the US. Besides, if you're vaccinated (I assume you are) you don't need to worry about being adversely affected from Covid infection.

 

How would quarantining the elderly and those with multiple co-morbidities away from everyone else? Probably the same why quarantines were accomplished by states via state governor proclamations in the first few months of 2020.

No, the experts at the NIH/CDC/WHO/Fauci were unprofessional when it came to how to handle pandemics. The NIH/CDC/WHO/Fauci didn't use common sense and they also didn't consult other scientists in other scientific arenas that were greatly affected by the recommendations of the NIH/CDC/WHO/Fauci to combat this pandemic like economists, psychologists and sociologists.

Yes, it's true. Trump used anecdotal evidence garnered from other doctors and scientists who'd used unproven methods to successfully treat Covid patients.
Like I posted before, some want to give Fauci leeway (like when he justifies his flip flopping on mask wearing by his citing of the scientific method, for example) but not want to give the same leeway to Trump. IMHPO, I think that's just Trump-hatin' in action.

 

Fauci said it himself that the scientific method is about gathering data and devising conclusions based on that data. Fauci also said the scientific method is always being used (like, for example, of mask wearing and its effects on Covid spread) and finding 'contrary' data and 'contrary' conclusions to what was previously known or concluded isn't out of the norm of the scientific method.

 

Are you posting about death figures which are world-wide or just in the US, for example, when you mention that the same number died in the first spike of Covid and the third? Remember, the US has great access to affective vaccines to Covid infection and other countries do not.

 

48% is a lot.

 

There was no vaccines in the first spike.
The point is that if vaccine prevents 90% of deaths (according to CDC), then we should have about 10,000 deaths in August/September (third spike) not 100,000.

 

huh?

 

The problem isn't the scientific method. It's working. The CDC says something, and then new data forces them to adjust. That's to be expected with a novel virus. They are going to make a lot of mistakes. The problem is that although we know that our knowledge of this virus is going to evolve, that isn't stopping people from enacting crushing mandates and crapping all over our system of law.

 

Approximately 75 percent of the population won't be adversely affected from Covid infection.

 

Twenty-five percent of the population are highly susceptible to Covid. Mask or no mask. Vaccine or no vaccine.

 

The CDC/WHO/NIH/Fauci made a lot of mistakes because they didn't use common sense, for example.

It was well known in March of 2020 that the elderly and those with multiple co-morbidities were the most susceptible to Covid and the CDC/WHO/NIH/Fauci didn't follow up on this.

For example, the CDC/WHO/NIH/Fauci devised a plan to combat Covid which excluded psychologists, sociologists and economists when their plan to combat Covid had elements which greatly affected the economy, the sociology and the psychology of Americans.