EU and Poland

I've got love for Poland (haven't been, yet) but.. I admire the Polish..

Until they start to 'in my London/UK born and bred ways', act backwards, refusing migrants and refugees.
But even though I don't agree what they're doing, I like why. Poland's ruling Law and Justice party feel like the EU owes them/Poland something, and are treating the EU like it too, in lieu of reparations from WWII, of course.
- The EU however, as a whole, it seems, isn't impressed with Poland and says, it will, if necessary impose on Poland, I think it's sanctions the EU want if it doesn't get its way in Poland but...
It's something that the EU doesn't wish to do, which warns, will, if forced to.
A 'Red Button' issue, as it coined on the news story I caught on Euronews the other day.
Poland, wish to stay in the EU and feel that the EU does owe them and that's why they don't want to accept refugees because they're being a little xenophobic but, are at least 'sticking to their guns' about it, claiming WWII as a reason.
- as I say, yay Poland! - I believe that Poland should be allowed to feel this and get special status within the EU that says, they don't have to do anything they don't want to.

 

https://euobserver.com/political/138525https://euobserver.com/political/138525
Poland 'leaving EU community of values'

 

http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/29/unease-in-brussels-over-trumps-poland-visit
Unease in Brussels over Trump's Poland visit



Poland are doing what it wants and Brussels doesn't like it.

 

Britain and Poland.
I just think, if Poland feel like they should have reparations from WWII, then it's only logical.
Either by Germany paying up or by Brussels giving Poland a special status within the bloc.

 

After all, why should Berlin feel so influential and Warsaw not?
It's almost like Germany stole Poland's rightful place.
If Merkel's immigration policy wasn't so self serving or destructive.

 

What right does the EU have to bully those in the East?

Brussels is demonstrating their apathy for Poland.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...n-commission-refusing-refugees-migrant-crisis
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ave-the-bloc-quotas-beata-szydlo-viktor-orban

Brussels is shamelessly acting like it runs Poland, saying comply with what we want or pay a price, telling Poland in effect they're not special and are just like every other member, when Poland feels this EU owes Poland for WWII.

 

Why should Poland accept migrants when
http://2164th.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/poland-owes-eu-germany-nothing.html
Poland Owes the EU (Germany) Nothing!

 

Germany's own shortage of colour is Germany's problem, and Poland doesn't want to do this, whether it helps or doesn't help the German labour market is irrelevant, Poland is saying 'No' to this.

 

I'm Polish! I don't know anything about Poland though. Born and raised here in the good ole US of A!

 

That's cool.
My sister married into a Polish-American family, who's been in America since the early 1900s or late 1800s... (a long time ago).
They've pretty much married Polish-American until my sister's mother-in-law who's part French Canadian and my sister (who was born and raised in London like me/same house, of the same 'stock') and... My sister's brother-in-law married a German woman (before my sister met them). - So there's my sister and her family (she now has her in-laws over for Thanksgiving and gets the honour of hosting that now) and this German woman her family, cousins to my family in NJ, all living in America as Americans who married into this same Polish-American family.
Proud military family too, my sister got married on Fort Dix, NJ. My brother-in-law was in the Navy and his father was in the Air Force and, that's how they came to NJ, I believe, working at Fort Dix..
My brother-in-law was born in MA actually in Cape Cod, but he's got a Florida/Jacksonville accent and grew up down there, then moved to NJ (Seaside Heights/Toms River) 'The Jersey Shore) in high school then left with the Navy to see the world... My sister met him when he lived in PA and worked with my brother... When my sister first moved to America, it was to PA, but then after they were married moved to NJ, and have lived in NJ ever since.
I think my brother-in-law said one of his brothers (there are 3 in total) was born in Concord, CA - and since they're a military family, have moved about, including living at a US base in Germany!...(So I was told/shown their furniture they bought back to America with them).
They're alright.

 

I got to show my brother-in-law that Polish food section at my local Tesco/(a UK supermarket)..
Since I remembered in 2001 in America (or 2004) - at one visit to his parents house, he once offered me some Polish food they liked... So I showed him all the food from Poland, but he didn't recognise any of the brands from the Polish food in America.

The family across the road from me are Polish and the lady there says hi to me (and everybody and likes to know her neighbours too), and we know each other through our cars and all of that (and the ins and outs of parking outside that goes on here).

 

I'm a mix of other things too. I'm not 100% Polish, but if I told you my mother's maiden name, you would recognize it as being Polish right away! Lol!

 

I think my great great grandparents on my mother's side immigrated here during the first world war or something. I'm not really sure though. Unfortunately, I don't really know too much about my extended family on my mother's side. Not a very close knit bunch. In fact, I wouldn't recognize them if I bumped into them on the street. I actually have a pretty funny story about that, but I'll save it for another time.

 

Same if I told you the name of my family in New Jersey.

 

I don't get why EU waste so much money on Poland. The EU is so weak, they let poland parasiting them. Poland get millions if not billions of aid from the EUrope ! I don't blame Poland, but rather the EU for letting the polish parasiting them.

 

Poland are as European as the next, and they're in the EU.
They don't use the Euro in Poland too.
No one's saying the EU shouldn't give aid to Poland, but why should Poland give back to the EU because of Germany saying so with migration that suites Germany but isn't in German control since people leave Germany behind once they become German/EU citizens and are free to settle around the EU.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tlement-beata-szydlo-commission-a7741236.html


Poland’s Prime Minister has claimed the country “cannot accept refugees” as the EU threatens legal action against nations failing to comply with quotas.

Alongside Hungary and Austria, it is one of only three countries not to have relocated a single refugee, “in breach of their legal obligations” and commitments.

“This cannot be the responsibility of just a few member states – this must be shared be all,” said Dimitris Avramopoulos, the European Commissioner for migration.

But Prime Minister Beata Szydło told a press conference there had been no formal agreement to compulsory quotas, which Hungary and Poland voted against.

 

I'm saying that, their is no reason the EU waste its money on Poland.

 

Or any other country for that matter.

They should keep all that money for themselves. Spend it on the good stuff. Like Palaces and restaurants.

 

Their is a lot of countries struggling with their own debt and they don't need to pay for Poland developpement when their underpaid workers already take jobs at a price locals can't compete

 

I agree.
But I don't feel that this is exclusively a Poland issue.

Certainly not wanting to pay for the EU is a big part of why Britain just left. But most countries in the EU are on the blag. Not just Poland, almost all of them. And those that don't blag the EU, blag NATO, and so on.

 

I can't really blame Poland, if they find some countries stupid enough to play that game...

 

Why should Poland accept migrants because the EU said it has to?
Poland should take the EU for every penny going.
Make no mistake about Germany's desire to be more like UK and USA when it comes to ethnic diversity.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...land-attacks-Germany-election-EU-Council-Tusk March 2017

Warsaw issued a scathing rebuke of the decision by the other 27 member states, including Britain, to vote the Polish eurocrat back into his high profile post for another two years.

But it was immediately slapped down by French president Francois Hollande, who warned the Eastern European country there would be “legal consequences” over its ongoing attempt to block the appointment.
The jaw-dropping row came just hours after Mr Tusk thanked EU member states for backing him to oversee the Brexit period and tried to rebuild bridges with Poland by saying he would continue to fight its corner.

It demonstrated how catastrophically relations have broken down between Warsaw and Brussels over the role of EU Council president and totally overshadowed what was supposed to be a show of European unity.

The roiling political slanging match centres around the leader of Poland’s ruling Law and Justice Party, Jarosław Kaczyński, who does not hold an official position in government but is the power behind the throne.

He blames Mr Tusk for an air crash in 2010 which killed the then president Lech Kaczyński, his twin brother, even though the eurocrat has been cleared of any involvement and the tragedy put down to pilot error.

In a furious outburst she then threatened to use Warsaw’s veto to try and stop the appointment, sparking fury and consternation in other capital cities across the continent.

And today outspoken Mr Kaczyński waded into the row himself, accusing the EU of being dominated by Germany and saying the controversy surrounding his compatriots re-election would speed up the demise of the bloc.

He raged: “The EU is an organisation dominated by one country. We cannot hide this, this country is Germany.

“The EU is dominated so extensively that the pressure on individual politicians is huge.

“If the EU does not abandon this road, it will be consigned to history.”

He raged: “The EU is an organisation dominated by one country. We cannot hide this, this country is Germany.

“The EU is dominated so extensively that the pressure on individual politicians is huge.

“If the EU does not abandon this road, it will be consigned to history.”