EURASIAHEADLINE NEWS BREAKING: UKRAINE BEGINS SHELLING NEAR MARIUPOL

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hell, if it is all just some misunderstanding,
    Ah, the truth is reason has been abandoned for tribe and faith.
     
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    Iraq was about a lot of things, oil being one of them.

    The only thing the Iraq war WASN'T about was the thing that the political class claimed it was about, e.g., weapons of mass destruction.

    That was a giant lie.

    And now that same political class is lying about Russia and Syria and Iran and any other country that doesn't prostrate itself before the globalist empire.
     
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    Again, this doesn't make any sense.
     
  5. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, I see Tull has you dead to rights--Thick As A Brick.

    Putin is a monster, Trump, his weaker twin. The Ukraine? The wrong country in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

    As to you? Anyone who sides with Putin and his thugs has withdrawn from the universe of reason and entered into the universe of intellectual fraud.
     
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    So what.....so its puts your TDS in the perspective that is reality.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Your comments are nonsensical.

    A MONSTER, you say!? Does he have shiny fangs and bloodshot eyes?

    As for Ukraine, it is not a real country. In reality, it is just a fiction being held together by the force and fraud of its fascist government.

    Pointing out the hypocrisy and lies of the US empire is not siding with Putin.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Putin is the reincarnation of Thomas Payne, John Locke, Aristotle, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Frederic Douglas, Milton Freidman, Ayn Rand, and on, and on, and on. He actually wants free markets, peace, and prosperity for his country; liberty and happiness for each individual of his nation. He's just a badly misunderstood, maligned, radical for individual rights, a free press, and capitalism. It's just that he has to be a totalitarian for a while so he can rid of his country's malcontents, dissidents, and complainers. How frigging stupid the rest of us must be to understand his benevolence and sense of justice. How petty of us defenders of liberty to bring up the those he jailed or murdered. Excuse the hell out of us, please. All hail, the new Russian Ceasar, oops, I mean the Neo-Zsar.
     
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    Who said those things about Putin? Certainly not me.
     
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    I'll just simply say: You're bizarre. Putin as hero, eeck.
     
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    So Putin is a murderer, a torturer, a "Stalin-lite" autocrat, and you're defending him why?
     
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    Every position I take is backed up by facts, evidence, and logic. If you find that bizarre, then it says far more about you than it does about me. As for your "Putin as hero" comment, that is nothing more than your imagination at work. I have never said or implied in any way that Putin is a hero.
     
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    And you defend him, why?
     
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    Irrelevant
     
  15. Ethereal

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    So, in your mind, there are only two possibilities. Either Putin must be a hero or he must be the devil. There is no room for any nuance in your world.

    I'm defending the truth. I cannot help it if the truth happens to favor Putin.
     
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    What facts, what evidence, what logic? That Putin is trying to expand Russia's territory, and America is trying to stop her? He is evil. He deserves death.
     
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    What do you mean by "weapons of mass destruction." ???
     
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    Yes. There are no black and whites. It's like being pregnant, you either are or not. Putin is evil. Kill the SOB. And the sooner the better.
     
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    I'm not defending him. I don't say the things I say because I like or support Putin. This is about holding my own government accountable for its lies, its corruption, and its hypocrisy.
     
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    That's a good question. The term itself is so nebulous as to be meaningless. Yet it was used as the primary basis for the war against Iraq.
     
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    So you think the US government is a global morality police? You think assassinating the leader of a nuclear power is a good idea?
     
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    So, we are going to change all the world's borders to reflect
    cultural and political realities. Are these going to be nuclear
    wars?
     
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    Why are you assuming that borders can only change through violence?
     
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    I thought weapons of mass destruction meant chemical, biological and nuclear?
    If so then Iraq tried the nuclear but was taken out by the Israelis.
    He tried the biological but didn't get very far with this.
    He tried the chemical and used it on the Iranians and the Kurds.

    So why does the Left (who love dictators) say Iraq had no WMD's?
     
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    Okay. I just go to Kiev and say, "Hi, I am Russian. Many people in
    Ukraine are Russian or speak Russian. We have decided therefor
    to move the Russian borders all the way to Poland. You will become
    a province of Russia.
    Comrade, why are you looking at me so angrily?"
     

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