Europe need death penalty now !

Hello,

the only way to deal with jihadism is to execute the people who call to jihad or do jihad. That's the only way to prevent the rotten fruits to contaminate the rest of the basket.

What motivate this post ? (Source in french)
https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_FR/status/978682410828271616

Translation :
The journalist "It's an egyptian man, 59 YO who got italian nationality by marrying a 79 YO italian woman, so twenty year older. He was the the president of a community muslim center based in Foggia. He teached islam to children, but a very radical Islam, for instance, he teached them that to get to paradise, it was neccessary to attack non muslims, I quote :
Abdel Rahman Mohdy Eldin Mostafa Omer :
"I invite you to fight infidels, to cut their head with your sword, to make explode their head into the air with your explosive belt. "
Those are so rather explicit words and he put a truly psychological pression on those children, those children were between 4 and 10 YO".
What is more disturbing is that this indivual shared on social netword content to praise Jihad, manual , instructions to build improvised weapons et said to he wanted to replace all church with mosques. During the police raid, detectives found propaganda material to the glory of ISIS, for Foggia prosecutor, there is no doubt this individual was member of an international jihadist network because he pledged alledgiance to ISIS".

Two lessons :
_ The only way to deal with those guys on rabbies is to execute them.
_ If it's not a muslim who denounced him, this community center should be closed and maybe destroyed.
_ Every people who knew and said nothing should be executed too or at least put in prison.

Liberals should be happy, I know a quick, painless, ecological way to execute people :

 

WELL, you're in the EU, which has a no death penalty thing, so;
Good luck with that.

 

EU would do nothing. You just have to act tougher, and some country have actual threats : like not paying contributions.

 

Yeah but, you're in the EU.

Germany, Merkel won't like it if France suddenly bought back the death penalty, think about it.
You're in the EU and no capital punishment is a condition of your union.

 

They wouldn't like even more if we stop to pay the financial contribution or we leave EU. Merkel would largely prefer we kill some useless idiots rather stop to pay.
France pay 22 billions every year to EU, we receive 14 billions. We're not some eastern country.

By the way, it would be easier for France to bring back death penalty, even if unfortunately not enough people died for french people to take some strong resolutions against mass migration and terrorism, than Italy.

But even Italy is big enough to threaten EU of repercussions if the EU don't let them to fight terrorism efficiently.

Every country who have strong troubles with terrorism have ways to put pression on EU :
_Belgium is the center of EU (Bruxelles).
_ France is the center of EU (Strasbourg), have a big army, and give a lot of money to EU.
_ Italy bring some money and could stop doing their job with migrants.
_ Spain is the attic of EU.

The biggest problem is that european became not pacifist as they think, but terribly weak. The only concern of EU is money. They can put pression on Poland, Hungary, because they depend of euromoney, that's not the case of France.
So no, EU isn't the problem, the fact that european people don't wake up is the problem, and the fact they don't realize it could end as in Lebanon or Algeria in the 90's.

 

Capital punishment doesn't work. The belief that killing people is any kind of solution is part of the problem.

 

Well you don't have to worry, France are in the EU and the EU is quite clear about it.
Germany will not be happy if France stopped paying or if France bought back capital punishment.

 

Japan and China have among the lowest homicide rate of the world and both countries have death penalty. Death penalty, homicide rate and globally violence rate are totally unrelated.
Austria have one of the lowest homicide rate too but no death penalty.

I know that something doesn't help to lower violence : putting free some extremly violent individuals.

Most prisons in Europe are overpopulated because of crime rate who explode those last years. I don't particulary like death penalty, but I think it's necessary for a few decades, the time to build more prison.

Furthermore about "the belief that killing people is any kind of solution". Remind me : How Hitler were defeated ?

 

Guillotine?
Non.


Stocks?
Oui.

Bring them back please.

 

Sorry, It's my patriotic side and ISIS guys seems to be quite fond of beheading.

 

You should watch out, they may make a mistake and execute you in error!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution

 

Leave ISIS to the Ghurka's.



They've beheaded a few Taliban already. They love it.

 

The EU has sentenced themselves to death.

 

Gurkha who beheaded Taliban soldier in Afghanistan battle cleared to return to duty

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...battle-cleared-return-duty.html#ixzz5AywUI3Qs

 

That's why I'm not a big fan of death penalty. But if you tell me that for my death they would be 10 or 100 ISIS members and militants executed, I would not regret to get the trendiest haircut of the year 1793.

 

If you think it's OK to kill an innocent person in order to kill 10 guilty ones then you're a badly principled person.

 

Okay, here is the situation today :
_ Either you let djihadism proliferate, you cause the death of many innocent people.
_ Either you bring back death penalty and risk to kill innocent people.

In either case, innocent people will die.

Every jihadist (maybe there is exceptions) had violent records behind them. France and Europe had since the abolition of death penalty a tradition of laxism and letting free sadists and ultra violent people.

Yes death penatly may kill innocent people, but laxism kill many innocent people too.

On the long term, I prefer death penatly to not exist but our countries regressed so much we need first to avoir european country to end like Lebanon or Algeria : in civil war because they let proliferate too much radical islam.

Each of those civil war cost 200 000 death (Algeria, between 60 000 and 200 000, Lebanon between 250 000 and 300 000 dead people). 200 000 death is much more death of innocent penalty that any judicial mistake can cause.

 

No need for the death penalty. Just deport the scum.

 

The death penalty is no deterrent, 'cos they're deranged and won't pay attention.
In fact they want to die so they're martyrs and go to paradise.
It would cause more suicide attacks.
Killing innocent people in France won't have any effect on the wars in the ME and NA.

 

A lot of them have french nationality, and I doubt that Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia will accept our trash, even if the trash is born on their ground.

I'm not talking on the wars in the ME and NA, but the war that could happen in Europe who would be a black decade 2 or a war in lebanon 2.
I'm for burning their body too. Apparently, they're not true muslims and it's particulary unislamic to burn a body.

I don't count that much on the fear. We just have to execute/put in prison a lot of people, and unfortunately life sentence are rarely effective.
We suffer from a heavy problem of laxism in France, and for instance, people who helped the terrorists of the bloody november events (130 death) got no penalty or 3 years.
One of the reason is that we lack of places of prison. We lack of prisons and there is globally a climate of laxism.
It surely won't afraid people who want to die, but the one who do the advertisement of the islamic state, maybe. But like, I said, I don't count much on the fear, there is case of rabbies and we must put down some enraged beasts.

Some individuals are extremly dangerous, and will almost always never cease to be dangerous. We have two solutions, either we kill them or you put them in prison forever.

The fact I say we need death penalty is clearly a confession that our nations failed terribly. Yes, death penalty isn't a good thing, and I tend to prefer life sentence but we're not anymore in position to be picky.

If we fail too much, we won't only live more bombings, but civil war too. Europe knew 400 death the 6 last years, France only got 300 of those death but if there is a civil war, you will need three more zeros to count the death if not four.

 

Jihad means 'struggle or effort'. That you didn't attack the right wing extremist comment is revealing.

 

Let's look at what Muhammed says about Jihad :

The Messenger of Allah was asked about the best jihad. He said: "The best jihad is the one in which your horse is slain and your blood is spilled."

— cited by Ibn Nuhaas and narrated by Ibn Habbaan.

 

Anyway, the nature of islam isn't the topic here. There is already pages about that on some other places of this forum. It's about the adequate way to deal with jihadist.

 

I'm not interested in your Islamophobia. Jihad is abused by extremists. You're one of them as you preach hatred

 

If you were really not intersted, you would not post there. This topic is about "how to fight jihadist". I'm not even speaking of regular muslims. So either you have something interesting to post (miracles can happen), or you stop wasting my time and yours. I'm sure you have more interesting things to do.