Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Ahhh,Another one who thinks 150+ tons of airplane was 'empty on the inside,and didn't tear out a good portion of the sprinkler piping going in...
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    He wouldn't have asked if he didn't know...duh

    You need to bone up on your pyhsics before you starts spouting off.....clearly you're out of your element.
     
  3. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    150 tons? You even add a + as if that matters... Each Twin had 500.000 tons. That's like a pigeon hitting a bus.

    It didn't tear out the pipes on the floors above and below. Sprinklers are supposed to start at the faintest smoke detection. And there was no shortage of smoke on that day... Yet not a single sprinkler started on any floor.
     
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    >>>FLAMEBAIT REMOVED<<< ... airplanes, jet fuel, Osama bin Laden, Terrorists, Conspiracy Theorists, OFFICE FIRES, 'Osama been Laying' around terrorizing the Bush family, except for one of Georgie's business partner brothers, and the Fires were just TOOO intense! Fire weakens steel don't you know... and then buildings just fall down.

    Boy, who is that boy? , a building expert, on TV on 9/11, "It just came out of nowhere" (space most likely lol) "& just reamed through right through the side of the Twin Towers exploding through the other side and then I witnessed both Towers COLLAPSE ... one first and the the other second ... mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense."

    [video=youtube;7GDa-L4hHHo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDa-L4hHHo[/video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDa-L4hHHo
     
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    Your post #12 would seem to contradict your claim
     
  6. djlunacee

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    At no point did I state that the design of the WTC was inferior. I built steel frame buildings for 9 years, I have walked many miles of steel in my time. Your response is dishonest. Would you actually like to address the post you quoted? You know with that 7th grade physics and all, should be a piece of cake. Refute what I said. The floor is yours, try being honest this time, for once.
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Or like a fraction of an ounce bullet hitting a person...it isn't the size,it's the force exerted.

    And once the water supply was compromised on ANY floor,there was no water pressure anywhere.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I showed you umpteen times that the sprinklers were working

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    whats the problem here? short memory regarding facts you dont like


    more garbage in both your bullet explanation and again the water. STOP coming out here and spreading pure unadulterated bull(*)(*)(*)(*).





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    Lol yep you got it!
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    that explains why your posts lack anything regarding physics
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    because you are wrong as usual.

    how long do you think misted jet fuel takes to burn?

    Maybe you think that a fuel tank crashing into a iron at the speed of a bullet doesnt mist and just pours out like pouring yourself a glass of milk and forms puddles on the ground?

    There were whole deblundering sites dedicated to that nonsense.
     
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    :roflol:
    Whoa!

    I come back a year later and on cue the same group of official 911 story defenders/bots are lying in wait...:roflol:
     
  12. leftysergeant

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    No expert analysis was needed. No HE discharges were heard at the time of collapse. The buildings collapsed just as I expected as I watched them.

    I, unlike you, know how steel performs in a fire.

    Once a complex steel structure is compromised mechanically, any effects of heat distortion become magnified because nothing is properly aligned any more. Once you misalign a steel structure, it becomes subject to collapse.

    This is obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

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    thermetic cutters make very little noise. what makes you think it has to be HE?

    but if you understood how these buildings are designed you would realize they are designed to account for that.

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    And not a damned one of them had had critical structural elements stripped of o thermal protection coatings, misaligned or broken by the impact of the biggest artillery round that could have hit them prior to the ignition of the fires. Do you have a point?
     
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    Thermitic cutters leave evidence. There was not evidence that thermitic cutters existed anywhere in the vicinity. regardless of what little Dickie have told you kids.
     
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    Now you are just being silly. It would go inside the structure and create a high-pressure cloud of well-carbureted and fantastically hot Class B accelerant which would then bloop out through any available pathway, to include elevator shafts, causing spot fires to ignite Class A fuels and create backdrafts where it meets with sufficient air. And yes, it would leave an airplane-shaped hole in the side of a steel structure. Much smaller, slower, lighter aircraft have done so in the past. Google the USS Hinsdale, 1945, Kamikaze strike.

    This only seems at all strange to people never fought a structural fire, or who did not stay awake in their grade school fire safety lectures.
     
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    No, you did not. You showed me that there was water running down the stairways and, to anyone who knows the first thing about fire fighting, it did not originate on a floor on whichj there was any significant fire, because, as even a retard can see, there is no SOOT in the water. You have not undergone the training required to teach anybody else how to read a fire scene, so do not lecture people who do have that experience. That water is more likely from broken plumbing within the walls. If you show me a working sprinkler head, or the statement of a witness who actually looked a a working sprinkler head, you have something. You have not shown us these things, so stop pretending that you have.

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    whats the problem here? short memory regarding facts you dont like?
     
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    Koko said that?..daang

    I miss a lot by not reading his replies..good thing I get his ignorance second hand...
     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    fantastically hot? well-carbureted? not not

    dream on, any time these kids come out here bragging they are experts expect to hear knee deep bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    But the elevator shaft doors have to be open, were they? citation please.

    a hardened military aircraft hitting a boat at 500mph will cause more damage than the light weight airbus wing, we have been through this already.


    in the real world wings get sliced off

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    that explains why your posts lack anything regarding intellect.
     
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    Are you suggesting elevator shafts are airtight?
     
  22. Kokomojojo

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    but logically yours posted that video that showed the fires went out WTF are you talking about?


    all excpet for one little problem that people reported the sprinklers were working and if the pipes were borking inside the walls they would have poured down inside the walls.

    the water was bevcause the floors were flooding.

    Of course it originated on the floor with the fire this is getting crazier by the second!

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    you guys say that there were fires inside the building then turn right around and pretend the whol building was magically wiped out.

    Hell one side wasnt even on fire.

    I suppose you think they had only 1 half inch pipe for the whole building that carried water huh?

    this is getting cwazier by the second!




    I am telling ya man stop reading those dablunder sites, they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots
     
  23. Kokomojojo

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    yeh but in the real world wings get sliced off

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  24. Vlad Ivx

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    Size does very much matter because it helps distribute the force of an impact but weight matters even more.

    If the ratio of weight between that bullet and the person was proportional to 150 to 500.000 that you had between the planes and the towers then no, force wouldn't matter to the person. Maybe you confuse the plane with asteroids which travel much faster than the speed of sound, in fact at a speed of over 10 kilometers PER SECOND. Can you say the same about the hijacked airliners or a bullet? Think again.

    Why is that?
     
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    case in point.
     
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