FBI admits it didn't investigate tip on alleged school shooter

Since the proper protocol was not follow we’ll never know

But spewing hate at Responsible gun owners for claiming their constitutional rights is not the answer as long as the Deep State remains so incompetent

 

You know it would really be helpful if people actually read the link in the OP before responding.

"But the agency said it failed to pass on any of that information to its Miami field office, even thought its own protocols say he “should have been assessed as a potential threat to life.”

 

Saying hunting is fun is a far cry from what this kid said and did. Come on, get real here.

PARKLAND, Fla. — The killing began with the squirrels. As a fourth-grader, Nikolas Cruz would try to bloody them with his pellet gun. Then he started going after chickens.

By the time Cruz was a teenager, he was sneaking into his neighbors’ yard across the street and trying to get his dogs to attack their baby potbelly pigs.

One resident watched him take long sticks to rabbit holes, ramming them down as hard as possible to kill any creatures trapped inside."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9c9830535e5_story.html?utm_term=.7ecd4cc68205

 

Naturally all of that is news to the anti trump FBI

They assumed Cruz was just a harmless kid

Maybe if they had seen a picture of Cruz wearIng a MAGA hat they would have taken more interest in the case and saved the lives of 20 innocent people

 

I've seen posts in this forum boasting and laughing at animals that have exploded into tiny bits after they have shot them.

 

Well whoever that was is a sick **** and does not represent hunters

 

hunting is a great pastime. Using weapons specifically designed to kill humans to hunt animals is not so great.

 

All of which has nothing to do with the FBI negligence here.

 

if anything, it is the local police who should have been tipped off and taken proper action - they likely were tipped off but did nothing

 

negligence or a wrong decision or a snafu? What do you know about it?

 

Just as a question (since I live in the UK, this does not affect me).

How many people would support a regular mental health check up requirement for owning guns?

Rubber stamping checking leaving the professionals liable to being sued...

 

True

The AR-15 is designed to kill humans and while it can be abused by some it represents a great defensive weapon for many, many more

If anyone recalls the LA riots in 1992 Korean store owners in riot central used that rifle and other lethal weapons to defend all they had in the world when the police were not there

 

The man who tipped the FBI did not live in the same city and did not even know where the shooter was

He contacted the local FBI in his area which should have been enough to get the ball rolling

 

It would be interesting to know how many tip offs the FBI receive every day regarding all kinds of threats regarding general terrorism and personal threats - I have little doubt that they would number in the thousands per day coming from all over the world. So when will the FBI funding be increased........

 

Thats the excuse that bureo rats in government always fall back on to explain their failures

But the FBI hands out millions of dollars in bobuses to it employees who make a pretty decent salary already

 

this was deemed a credible threat by the fbi, by them. They never notified the agents in Florida. They factually dropped the ball and whoever did should be immediately fired at the least. At the most put on trial for manslaughter. How sad the people that made this mistake are still working doing the same job. Another school shooting and we will blame guns again instead of the people who knew about a potential attack but sat on their asses. Again.

 

The salary of FBI staff is not much different to the local police. FBI employs approx 35000 staff which includes admin, scientists, language experts and agents. Minority of staff get bonuses. Their job is to allocate resources to every one of the thousands of tips per day. Many of those tips are related to international terrorism in the bogey man of "war on terror". The huge majority of tips are made up malicious personal grievances towards the FBI, buildings, politician and everyday civilians. Yet the popular proposal is to reduce their budget

 

39 visits to his house by local police and not one visit resulted in reporting any concern of his behavior. Now if you're in favor of confiscating guns from suspects until proven innocent then I would agree with you. Are you in favor? Otherwise what could the FBI have done for someone who could argue that he just wrote a sick joke on an anonymous Youtube video. I have seen similar "jokes" on this forum - should those posters be reported to the FBI?

 

that makes my point. If after 39 visits and threats about shooting a school up and the FBI classifying him as a potential imminent threat arent enough...why would more gun control on law abiding citizens work. These kids died because the FBI dropped the ball. Its their fault not the people who own guns.

 

The FBI couldn't have done anything even if he'd said he was deadly serious and meant every word of it; that's probably why they just called it a day and went back to Langley.

 

The local police who knew him did not consider him a threat after 39 visits so why should a sick anonymous "joke" on a youtube video convince anyone he was anymore of a threat. You did not answer my question - should suspects have their guns confiscated until proven innocent?

 

You're right. There is nothing that they can do using the current laws.

 

With apols for repeating myself - it would be too easy to replace the confiscated firearms?? I won't mention that aspect again, but when a country is flooded with this kind of hardware - probably averages out at 1 for every member of the population - it's effortless to acquire a firearm, legally or illegally.

 

Yep, I'm afraid that's what it boils down to.

 

no of course not, they should however when the FBI determines them to be a credible threat as a potential imminent school shooter...dont you agree? He was on their radar and identified as a threat, they dropped the ball. What would more gun laws against me would help the fbi not drop the ball again?