FBI Confirms It’s Restarting Online Censorship Efforts Ahead Of 2024 Election

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  1. Joe knows

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    I believe they were vindicated when it was proven in court that the machines were easily manipulated.
     
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  2. Hey Now

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    If, if, if, you know what they say about that reach around.....the FBI, DHS, flags them to the social media company, share their intelligence and the media company does their due diligence. Foreign propaganda masquerading as free speech is not protected speech. Russian/Chinese active measures are acts of war.
     
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  3. Hey Now

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    Nahh, the corps are private, they, govt, share their intelligence with the social media companies and let themdo their due dillegence.
     
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  4. Kal'Stang

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    Technically speaking, our Rights do not apply to foreign countries. However, they DO apply to everywhere that the US Government has jurisdiction over. And last I knew Twitter/X et al is with in US Jurisdiction. Which means ANYONE posting on it, no matter where they are at, is protected by the 1st Amendment. Just like Illegals Aliens are entitled to all the Rights that a US citizen is entitled to even though they are foreign nationals. And they have those Rights because they are in US Government jurisdiction.

    And last I knew the 1st Amendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    So, if you truly are a person "wanting to remain free and have constitutional rights applied to ALL"....then you should be pissed that the US Government is conspiring to once again interfere with speech through censorship.
     
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  5. modernpaladin

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    So you trust your speech to the 'due diligence' of megacorporations. And you're NOT joking...

    FFS :rolleyes:
     
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    I’d add an exception for making political statements that the person knows to be false. People misled by Fox News would not be culpable because they believe it’s true. But the original source on Fox News may not be so insulated, particularly if they admit they know they’re lying in private emails.
     
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  7. cd8ed

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    I missed where any of you cared when Florida targeted private businesses over their speech.

    I do find it hilarious that y’all don’t mind if the government attacks private businesses but are so outraged if they try and prevent foreign actors from influencing our elections (but likely if it’s only ones pushing what you want them to push)

    Says a ton about where your agenda lies.
     
  8. modernpaladin

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    OK, but what metric are you using to identify what someone else 'knows'?
     
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  9. cd8ed

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    Especially when they gave republicans access. How many of y’all were arrested for trying to edit or steal data from the machines? How many Democrats?
     
  10. modernpaladin

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    What are you even talking about?

    I don't live in Florida. I do live in the US.

    What is your position on the US govt having the power to suppress speech merely by labelling it 'foreign'?
     
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  11. Kal'Stang

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    There are many examples of how this actually played out. Including the Hunter laptop story. So much for wanting to remain free eh?
     
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    Foreign propaganda is not free speech and government working to informing private business re foreign interference has been going on for decades. Same with the FBI helping companies protect their systems and the population from foreign attacks. Focus, ask yourself why the Russians target one party more than the other? Simple, they are easy targets and believe the government is after them.
    Well, I personally never put any creedence in people assuming their government doesn't have to right to protect the citizenry from foreign enemy actors.
     
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    Selective and displaced outrage

    I am fine with it as this isn’t just a “labeling”

    Why is your position that foreign nations should be able to manipulate our elections?
     
  14. modernpaladin

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    You mean 'protect the citizenry from CITIZENS that the govt CLAIMS are foreign actors.'

    That is just a transparent excuse to suppress speech while pretending to not.
     
  15. Hey Now

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    Hunter laptop has chain of custody and custody of content issues. The laptop was also in the hands of desperate hyper partisans.
     
  16. Hey Now

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    This would be exactly the kind of spin I'd expect from Russians masquerading as Americans hiding behind the 1st but conducting active measures.

    Point being, Govt shares their intelligence with social media and the media company does due dilligence or not.
     
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    Be specific. Provide a link. I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
    How do you know?
    You mean manipulate our opinions. There's no evidence that foreign nations effected our voting results. I oppose isolationism, both economic AND informational. Everything is propaganda. Would you have posts from England advocating for single payer nationalized healthcare or tighter firearm regulations to be suppressed? Because that is propaganda just as much as anything else is, manipulating the opinions of Americans and likely effecting how some of them vote. But the govt is not 'protecting' us from that foreign influence, only the things that certain people (certain parties) don't like. Better that we have access to ALL information and be allowed to decide for ourselves, no? Or should democracy be protected from the ignorance of the 51%?
     
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  18. Steve N

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    Where did he say that? This is a perfect example of misinformation. You make a false or exaggerated claim, people read it, believe it and the next thing you know it becomes a fact.
     
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    So not only do you trust your right to speech to be protected by the 'due dilligence' of megacoporations, but you also trust the veractiy of govt intelligence...

    What was your position on our invasion and destruction of Iraq in Bush's crusade for 'WMDs' that govt intelligence assured the news megacorporations were definitely there and definitely going to be used against America?
     
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  20. Hey Now

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    I expect and trust the government to be protecting the citizenry from enemy active measures deseminated through propaganda using social media expecially more so if they favor a manchurian candidate or are hell bent on encouraging violence in the streets to influence an election.

    You are flailing all over the place reaching for hats and rabbits.
     
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  21. Kal'Stang

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    This is actually false. The FBI took the laptop directly from the computer repair person that had it. Guiliani et al had COPIES of the hard drive. Additionally the FBI has since verified the authenticity of what is on the laptop. LINK: Hunter Biden laptop scandal: a fact-check | khou.com

    IE: You are believing fake news.
     
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    You didn't asnwer the question.

    Did you trust the govt and the corporate news after they lied about WMDs in iraq?

    Do you think that was a one-time-thing?
     
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    Let's see if they follow the same game plan this time from the last election coverup.

    They are protecting the public...
    No mention of secret portals.
    They are oblivious that the they are conspiring with Twitter to deny American citizens 1st amendment right.... but as they have been pulling this stuff off for so long now and never been held accountable... it never dawned on them they are not above the law...

    FBI on Twitter Files: "Conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation... to discredit the agency."

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1605670995183951877?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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    There is a huge difference between cyber attacks, and making a post on Twitter/X et al. And like it or not, posting on social media sites that are under US Jurisdiction has 1st Amendment protections. Just like illegal aliens have 1st Amendment protections.
     
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    As you can see Democrats are doing everything to win in November.

    The best thing GOP/MAGA should do is stay home on November and say “ look, I didn’t vote this election as a protest vote”.
     

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