Federal Judge Compares Abortion Industry to Nazi Eugenics: It’s 'Pure Evil' to Target Certain Babies

To pass a Bill requires bi partisan support and there was no way that the house bill was going to pass the senate or get the Presidents signature. Scott’s bill was 80% of what the democrats wanted and was the only basis from which a bill could pass both houses. It’s true again this year. No bill that’s not largely his will get 60 votes in the senate. No bill will pass a 50/50 senate without Republican input and Scott’s name front and center.

 

Does this have anything to do with the OP?

 

The cloture vote was 55-45, indicating that it was not strictly on party lines.

Your 80% thing is absolute partisan nonsense.

Then, you prove the partisan power is more important than the actual policing issue by calling for retribution!

... as if that wasn't already crystal clear.

 

Oh, here's a great example....want to explain why this is on topic?

 

It's an example of me responding to another post which was off-topic. I didn't start this off-topic discussion.

I hate when people do that, they throw in something outrageous, that almost forces the other side to come in and rebut it, but then that can easily turn into a separate discussion and derail the topic.

How about you find an example of me trying to take things way off-topic when I am not the one who initiated it?

 

Then quit doing it .

 

It's pushing the responsibility onto someone else.

 

These discussions seem to drift off topic really fast.

 

WHO? There is only one person pregnant...

 

And to whom would that be exactly?

The woman who chooses abortion because she does not want a child is being responsible. It would be irresponsible for her to give birth.

And, please, do not give me the bs about her choice to have sex is irresponsible because wanting sex and pursuing it is not irresponsible.

 

Ya, when someone doesn't like to answer those INCONVENIENT questions....some people think inconvenience is for others...

 

It would also be irresponsible for her to engage in actions that could lead to pregnancy. Would you agree?

Or do you believe it's not irresponsible at all, because she can always just go get an abortion if anything goes wrong.

 

There are not a plurality of actions that lead to pregnancy, there is only one action and that one action is not irresponsible in of itself. But, I understand that a TradCon like you does not like that women are not living their lives the way you want them to.

No. The responsibility of it is not dependent on the access to abortion. Sex can be irresponsible in some contexts, but sex is not a sin and is generally something good.

It is also rather distasteful to oretend as if women are having abortions for fun.

 

It could be but it isn't against the law and there should be no punishment for it as Anti-Choicers want...

It may be irresponsible in my eyes but unlike you I don't butt in to people's private lives unless they're breaking the law....

Why do you want what you consider an irresponsible person raising a child?? Don't you like children?

 

I think it's irresponsible to not answer post because they're INCONVENIENT

 

But that is the reality, isn't it?

 

The real question would be how many intercourses does it take to justify one abortion.
If we were to try to place some numbers on it to try to quantify it.

 

I'm really surprised to hear you say that. You do realize that implies that abortion versus giving life to a baby has no difference when it comes to whether it is a responsible thing.

Logically, this must either mean that they are equal, or that any reproductive choice the woman makes cannot be irresponsible.
So which is it?

(Or tell me where I went wrong in the logic)

 

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It is also rather distasteful to pretend as if women are having abortions for fun.

You have surpassed yourself in your denigration of women.


You actually think women have abortions for fun....that idea is demented, the misogyny is unbelievable...

 

You'll have to present logic first.

 

Certainly not.

Just one.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Depending on the context, they can both be responsible as well as irresponsible.

The only thing that is relevant is the woman's values, ambitions and goals.