"First Israeli killed by Gaza rocket fire..."

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  1. Matt_Kyle

    Matt_Kyle New Member

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as many as it takes for Hamas to stop firing rockets.

    why is it that so many people think that the puny 90lb weakling that kicks sand in the face of the 900lb gorilla is the victim when the gorilla proceeds to pound him to a pulp?

    No Hamas rockets = No Israeli bombs or UNNECESSARY civilian deaths.
     
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    It depends on how many human shields Hamas orders to stand in the line of fire. The Palestinians are expendable to Hamas. That should certainly make you angry.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yeah, that's what the Nazis said of the Jews in WW2.

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    Human shields? You mean like these heroic warriors of the IDF?
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993
     
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    16, 782......=/- 1200

    Seriously?...why does this matter in the light of the idiocy taking place?

    If the Palestinians wish to avoid violence...they have only to stop being violent.

    Personally....I simply do not care anymore.
     
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    The Israelis would need to indiscriminately shell schools, churches, shopping malls and hospitals to even come close to catching up the the Palestinians in that area.
     
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    I remember before the Iron Dome was invented and the west was lock-step with Israel. Fiberal ideology is so vacuous as to presume that whoever is winning must be the bad guy.
     
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    Easy and predictable comment, next time ... try something better.

    No, the comparison is simply out of context [not only weak],

    * historians are not aware about Jews launching rockets from Jewish ghettos to German quarters of Berlin to kill German ...

    * Israelis don't consider Hamas guys "subhumans" but simply stupid, coward, criminals.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Israel considers anyone who doesn't agree with their atrocious treatment of the Palestinians as criminals in league with Satan.
     
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    Oh well, I concede this is a less predictable sentence ...
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the nazis did claim

    No more jews = no more industrial murder programs. (well maybe just not as many).



    Rather more extensive that those heroic warriors who are using the enemy to protect themselves.

    Seems Hamas human shields ARE THEIR OWN CIVILIAN PERSONNEL and are meant to protect ammo dumps and rocket factories and hamas infrastructure. They aren't human shields they are simply sacrificial lambs to the slaughter, for nothing more than propaganda purposes, since EVERYONE knows that Israel notifies the area of an impending strike warning them to get out of dodge which ausuages much of the guilt since Israelis won't be deterred if they think they can kill Hamas operatives and/or destroy their stuff.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Israelis don't agree with the treatment of Palestinians.
    Other than holocaust denial, nobody is considered a criminal in Israel for expressing their opinion.
    Jews do not even remotely believe in the christian notion of Satan.

    Three obvious errors in a single sentence, not bad snake.
     
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    So be it.
     
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    That's a new one
     
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    It happens I hate to be right, but as it was predictable [more predictable than some curious statements in this thread ...], the claimed ceasefire has already ended [before of beginning!].

    Rockets from Gaza, Israel raids as response ... nothing new under the sun.
     
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    Israel started it. Netanyahu knew Hamas was not responsible for the kidnappings, but nevertheless went for them.

    Hamas has the right to fire as much rockets as they please.
     
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    Is that so?

    “Vengeance for the blood of a small child, Satan has not yet created”

    B. Netanyahu.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    There is nowhere to go in 'Dodge'. Gaza is the most densely populated region on the planet so all this rubbish about 'human shields' is simply regurgitated, parrot-fashion, Israeli propaganda in an attempt to demonise the Palestinians even more than they already are. But of course you know this.
     
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    Difference: Jews didn't bomb Germany, Nazis looked for racial extinction.
    Hamas has been bombing Israel for a full week before Israel dared to do something, giving them the option to stop.
    Then Israel agreed to a ceasefire and stop firing, Hamas didn't and kept on. and for 13 years in total.
    Do you realize that theres thousnads of Bar-Mitzva boys today that only know the routine of getting bombed?

    Differnce:
    Those soldiers are in prison, they are not represnting the majority.
    Hamas leadership is encouraging people to stand of roof tops knowing Israel would bomb the missiles hidden in those houses. Israel has canceled attacks more then once because of such things(there are video proofs).
     
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    So in Snake's world terrorism and war crimes are legal and valid simply because the area one commits these crimes from endangers the inhabitants as well.

    Great logic from a supporter of terrorism! :roflol:
     
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    but we don't have the right to defend ourselves from such rockets? do you realize how absurd that is?

    and Hamas is responsible for the kidnappings and killing of the 3 israeli teenagers.

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    Israel is tellings them exactly where to go in order to be safe. The papers they throw in Gaza state where they are going to attack and where should the people leave to in order to be safe.
    But of curse you know this.
     
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    The Israeli kill rate has always been 30 to 1 at a minimum... People dare not protest or resist the loss of land, homes, orchards or water sources in the face of Jewish entitlement.
     
  23. DrewBedson

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    30 to one huh? :roflol:

    "Professor Alan Dershowitz stated that the 2008 figure of 1:30 represents the lowest civilian to combatant casualty ratio in history in the setting of combating terrorism. He argued that even this figure may be misleading because not all civilians are innocent bystanders.[42] In October 2009, Dershowitz stated that the ratio for Israel's campaign of targeted assassinations stood at 1 civilian for every 28 terrorists. He asserted that "this is the best ratio of any country in the world that is fighting asymmetrical warfare against terrorists who hide behind civilians.[43]"

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

    Ya, thirty terrorists killed for each civilian that is deliberately placed in harms way by Hamas you mean.
     
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    Israel's killing 194 Palestinians did nothing to prevent the 1 Israeli death.

    By any objective criteria, Israel's bombing in response to Hamas terrorism has been a monumental failure.

    Persisting in the ineffective, time-honoured tradition needs to change in the interests of all concerned.

    - unless, of course, you wish to perpetuate the misery.


    Update. Fanatical apologists notwithstanding, Netanyahu and Likud are achieving nothing for Israel by persisting in this sort of policy:

     
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    Funny how Hamas and the palestinians have not invested a nickel in civil defence.
    Anyway, as you are aware, the IDF targets specific locations and warns the surrounding civilians to go somewhere else. Since the Egyptians have sealed the border, they have to remove themselves to areas that are considered safe within gaza.

    AS for human shields, there is PLENTY of hard evidence that hamas uses them to protect their own supplies and personnel. They fire rockets from residential areas, they demand citizens not evacuate designated target areas.

    Anyway you want to slice it, Hamas are fanatics not nearly as interested in achieving palestinian national aspirations as they are defeating the Israelis. They are more than willing to condemn the palestinian people to death, misery, destruction, and terror to achieve their overarching purpose - the liberation of all of historic palestine. (a handy euphemism for the destruction of Israel).
     

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