FoxNews Report: Everybody in the White House Considers Trump an Idiot

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, you mean he is like every other politician. OK. Why focus your ire on only him?
     
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    All but 2 million. In fact the number that voted for him represent 29% of the voting-age public in case it matters.

    They didn't vote for policies. You seem to have a casual relationship with accuracy.

    Again, wrong. https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/02/support-border-wall-drops-38/

    Even the most pro-wall poll finds 41% favor, and 47% opposed to a wall. Again, accuracy, or is it "truth"?

    Wow. You're batting ZERO.
    https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-on-immigration-policy

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-compromise-public-opinion-poll-dreamers-wall

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/poll-trump-immigration-policy/2018/07/03/id/869787/

    I'd say Trump's cozying up to a former chief of the KGB and choosing to believe him over our own Intel is a bit worse than sedition, but you say nothing against it. Why? Are you RATIONALIZING it?
     
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  3. yardmeat

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    Because he's a compulsive liar even when compared to other politicians, and we heard Trumpeters shovel the whole "He's different because he's not a politician" BS for too long.
     
  4. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just so you admit to having double standards.
     
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    Nope. As I said, he's a compulsive liar even when compared to other politicians. Meanwhile, you praise him for calling out liars . . . but your hackles raise when his own liars are called out. Now that's a double standard.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope. I believe that there are legitimate complaints to be raised against him. In fact, I think that there are enough complaints to be raised that I think it's ridiculous to make stuff up.

    Just stop going along with the people who make stuff up. We'd all be better off.
     
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    Then we can agree he's a habitual liar. Good.
     
  8. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm getting the feeling that you're not understanding my points.

    I understand that I've never been an effective communicator.

    Maybe my continued hope to reach people is misguided.

    There's nothing for it, but for me to keep banging my head against all y'all's walls. I don't know a better way.
     
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    Yes I mean recordings. Most wouldn't have a problem with that term, but if it confuses you, I'll gladly edit the post. I haven't personally seen or heard the recordings, but he says he has them, and I have no reason to doubt him.
     
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    The points sound a little too much like whataboutism. So if you are going for something else, that would be the best place to focus communication changes.
     
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    He lost the popular vote by 3 million and that is a record popular vote loss to have and still be able to slither into office. Trump never had a mandate but his fans do not appear to understand that.
     
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    Woodward has some tapes you know. Or maybe you didn't.
     
  13. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What am I to do?

    The fake concept of 'whataboutism' is a fraudulent idea. I would then have to battle that 'red-herring'. I've tried doing that many times, but people have their heroic leftist beliefs, that they're unwilling to challenge. I wish you would understand that gleefully levelling the charge of so-called 'whataboutism' is only a deflection from admitting to one's own hypocrisy.

    Note: I admit that Trump lies, just like other politicians do. You focus only on Trump. Why is that? Why won't you admit that he is no different, in that regard, from all others? Is it, possibly, because you want to duplicitously ignore all those other liars; act as if that same fault don't exist in them, just so you can use that weapon against the guy that you have been told to use it against?
     
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    Because he is the current president right now.
     
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    From across the pond...the only idiots I can see are the people who cannot actually acknowledge that the U.S economy is recovering at great speed, real jobs are being created and there is finally someone in the White House who actually is doing things for people who elected him. Not too bad.
     
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    Study of n=1.
    Stupid
     
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    The neocon princess weighs in with a long winded post.
    Bravo.
     
  18. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Question: Did you support levelling that same charge against EVERY prior President?
     
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    sad but true
     
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    Trump is not like every President before him when it comes to lying, Trump wins that title hands down, to a crazy extreme

    truth isn't truth, alternative facts, this admin takes it to a insane level, let's just be happy Trump only has two more years
     
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    OK
     
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    Tapes? You mean audio recordings? No one uses tapes nowadays. That's old school.

    And maybe he doesn't have any audio recordings.
     
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    He doesn't have them because no one in their right mind would allow themselves to be recorded saying the things that are in the book unless Woodward illegally recorded them without their knowledge which is a crime.
     
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    I haven't kept up with this thread.

    Has anyone posted a link to the Fox News report yet?
     
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    Like Obama, Hillary, Schumer, Reid, or any other Democratic politician, right?
     

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