Free men own guns, slaves dont.

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  1. Felix (R)

    Felix (R) New Member

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    You are clearly under a misapprehension. I dont watch TV and guns arent really promoted to consummate manhood as you seem to suspect. In america its custom to fear big government and for good reason. You wouldnt know as
    Your take on history is clearly distorted. On top of that you list freedom as an invention.
     
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    So nobody was shot after Katrina, ok. OP still stands. And governments have turned on there people after confiscating firearms. You are now making what you surmise to be reasonable geusses at what may or may not of happened in attempt to defend an
    Position which is equally flimsy.
     
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    errr...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Canada

    See...civility and freedom are NOT mutually exclusive.

    On a side note: Nice gun...kill anyone lately?
     
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    The common arguement in favor is whats known as the second ammendment.
     
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    An amendment made...BTW...in 1791.

    A time when guns were a necessity during the expansion westward.
    That necessity no longer exists.

    But it is a nice phallic symbol.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    The rules of those governments also drank water, does not mean that's a prelude.

    Saddam allowed people more firepower than Americans, look at he was able to commit.
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    Incorrect. Gun ownership was not as prominent as many think. This is a common misconception.
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    You didnt quote me however I conclude the last question was directed towards me. Its an AR-15, and no, I dont kill people.
     
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    The second amendment isn't an argument, it's just a statement. It's used as a basis for the argument I referred to. The fact it's in the Constitution doesn't automatically make it morally or practically right for America today. If the Constitution was unquestionable, you wouldn't have amendments at all.
     
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    Not really the example I would have invoked. Saddam abbeted those gun carrIers to carry so he could do what was needed. In other words, I doubt any who were not in support were given a firearm.
     
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    Oh...well unless you plan to go "hunting" terrorist Deer...why would you own an assault rifle?
     
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    Its my right as an american citizen. It is for self defense and marksmanship. Hunting with this type of firearm is strictly prohibited.
     
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    We are actually a republic.... Or were.
     
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    Its your right.

    Let's just chuck the whole self defense and marksmanship BS. I could kill you just as easily with a .22 cap than with a hail of bullets from an assault rifle. Especially if I were the great marksman you must be...right?

    So...we are left with...Its your right.
    Its also your right to go out and wrestle bears or swim with sharks if you so desire...tell ya what, why don't you go have wrestling match with a griz and come back to report how that went.
     
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    What is this nonsense you have posted? You could not just as easily kill me with a 22. Believe that. The prior post is just an indicator of how little you actually know about how these firearms operate.

    The bear nonsense is completely irrelevant and ill manered to suggest such acts of cruelty.
     
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    Nonsense? Believe this...give me a .22 rifle and I'm just as lethal at short-range than you can be with that killin' machine of yours. See...I don't need 10 shots...1 will do, and I'm just a peace-nik Canuck...

    You think its "cruel" to go pick a fist fight with a bear? Yer joshin', right?

    The bottom line is this.
    Hunting rifles are OK...in my books...for hunting. I have no problem with that.
    But the line has to be drawn there.
    Hand guns and military hardware are "killin' machines".
    They serve no other purpose but to kill humans...and to alleviate penis-envy.
     
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    Wrong wrong wrong. A 22. is not as lethal. I took a hollow point from a 22. Magnum at 4ft wearing light armor. If it had been an AR, it would have most
    Certainly penetrated. The rifle in question is not military hardware, it is the civilian model of the M4.
     
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    What I have read stated that households were allowed one AK-47 under Saddams rule.

    An AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Its a sporting rifle.
     
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    Some people live in a fantasy world. Europe is proof.


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    dream on!
     
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    Guns made me the man I am today.
     
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    Excellent post and an apt counter to the OP.
     
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    Guns are inanimate objects. Since when do they do anything by themselves?
    {heard that somewhere}
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    Wrong, the comment was debunked a few posts ago.
     
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    Does the man make the gun, or the gun make the man?
     
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    A good question indeed, and probably why this debate will go in circles ad nauseum. In the right hands a gun is a very necessary and useful tool but in the wrong hands it is a bringer of death and sorrow. Ban all guns? Rank foolishness. I need a gun in my job sometimes (primary producer). Everyone has a right to a gun? Also rank foolishness. Some people shouldn't be trusted with a blunt spoon let alone a gun.

    I s'pose there is a balance somewhere but better people than me have tried and failed to find it.
     

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