Fully Vaccinated Cases in this County

It's also interesting that those unvaccinated who live are actually better protected than those with vaccinations. They should not have to be vaccinated. Also, it's very clear that the communist dictators in Washington and the Feurer Fauci don't want us to know that there are drugs that kill the pneumonia and prevent it from getting bad. Anytime someone comes out healthy by using these many drugs they are immediately attacked by the Feurer and Democrats and Media. Why?

 

Show your reference facts. I don't believe you. Everywhere else only 5-15% are getting infected with Covid19. I'll go with the truth.

 

Sorry

 

Sooooo - this rant against vaccines is an America only thing?

 

Plus what they are NOT considering is the dose regime. Ivermectin is a once only treatment. And although it has shown to be a possibly effective anti-viral medication 8n vitro (lab experiments on cells not people) there is poor evidence supporting it’s use even in silico (computer model) because of the dosing regime. The effective dosing regime puts it close to or over the toxicity level

In other words it can cure you of Covid but you will end up dead because of siezures whilst you have run away diarrhoea

 

But people ARE a taking the veterinary product. The latest is you smear it on your armpits

 

Not at all. Look at Australia and the brutality of their government. We are just catching up to them.

 

NO.

There is NO justification for individuals on this board to broadcast THEMSELVES as experts.

People should do EXACTLY what apexofpurple did:

Cite the reviewed results of science based medicine.

 

Cite please.

 

Study please...

 

That's actually a useless chart. There are more red counties then blue, red counties are more rural. Plus its outdated. States have a lot to say about availability and distribution. Sorry your charts don't say anything usable.

 

Lols! What “Brutality”? I LIVE in Qld - we have had a couple of weeks of wearing masks and we have to use the Covid app everywhere but on the other hand we have had just seven deaths since the beginning of the pandemic

 

No. People shouldn't parrot the arguments of others... They should be able to think and reason for themselves, lest they be led astray.

 

Obviously, but that is NOT the issue.

We have people EATING HORSE PASTE because their sources of information led them to do that. They did NOT come up with that on their own. They went to the trouble of getting this information and then they acted on it.

So, the issue at hand is where one goes for information and how does one check out that the information obtained is the best we have.

If the topic is medicine, that means respecting and using the major sources of science based medicine, where information is continuously reviewed by those who have serious experience in the field.

 

"Horse paste" is ivermectin, just in paste form instead of pill form. It will not harm a person if the proper amount is ingested. Ivermectin is FDA approved for human use and is very safe and effective. --- People wouldn't be acquiring the "horse paste" version of it if they were able to freely acquire the pill version of it (either via prescription or via over the counter). It is the suppression to the access of pill-form ivermectin that is leading people to acquire the "horse paste" ivermectin.

I obtain information from everywhere. Some of it is good and true, some of it is bad and false. I can sift through it for myself. I don't need someone else to do my thinking for me.

Yup, and in the case of ivermectin, it is FDA-approved for human use and has been used as an anti-parasitical for numerous decades now. It has been proven to be very safe and effective.

 

BFD.

Ivermectin is not effective against COVID.

And, like ALL fake medical solutions, causing people to use this means that the ACTUAL solutions do not get used.

This demonstrates that you CAN NOT successfully think for yourself on this topic.

And, you also fail to get health information from sources that include science based medicine.


Please stop your recommendation of Ivermectin, because it DOES lead to people DYING by diverting them from actual solutions for fighting COVID.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

NOW - I asked you for a cite.

And, I still want to see your cite that is refuted above.

I want to know where you got your idea from.

 

Yes, it is. It seems to prevent COVID from replicating. More study is needed, but it seems to work. Various countries, such as India, have had success with it.

What are the "actual" medical solutions?

No, this demonstrates that YOU can't think for YOURSELF. I am the one who is doing the thinking here.

No, you are simply ignoring science based medicine and touting the CDC and FDA line instead... You parrot what the government tells you. Do you also eat 6-11 servings of grains each day?? You are not a horse. You are not a cow.

No. You don't get to suppress me. You don't get to order me around.

No, it doesn't. Government suppression of treatment options is what is causing such people to die. It's as if the government WANTS people to die... I'm trying to save lives.

 

The government is out beating people and throwing them in jail. We get the news from what's going on there. You can't hide it. Shameful! Communistic for sure!

 

I see your cite is dated August 6th. Here is one dated from an actual science site August 26th. https://www.science.org/news/2021/0...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

"The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19."

You really need to watch Fox News to keep up with actual science.

 

US testing done by CDC and FDA show that ivermectin is not effective in either preventing or treating COVID.

I know full well that there are other countries that have supported this ivermectin idea. Brazil is another one. But, the issue there has been more political, with the country having FAR too few vaccines and being unwilling to tell their people that all they can do is wear a mask and not congregate.

Vaccination. It is HUGELY successful. Plus, wear a mask and don't congregate.

Again, giving FAKE solutions causes people to fail to use the actual solutions. That is a LETHAL recipe, and it IS the fault of the fake medicine industry that is so prevalent in America.

America spends BILLIONS of dollars on homeopathy. The result is that those with serious disease are encouraged NOT to seek valid medical attention and thus suffer the consequences of delayed attention.

"Think for yourself" is NOT a valid replacement for a MEDICAL DEGREE, let alone the full force of science based medicine.

I'm willing to consider medical studies that have gone through serious review and publication involving reputable sources.

But, your attempt to paint science done by CDC as something to consider as "government" rather than science is both IGNORANT and DISGUSTIN. Their work gets reviewed just like others. And, they have a stupendous track record - while homeopathy is not just pathetic and lacking in any element of science, but highly dangerous.

I was merely hoping you would not promote the sociopathic views of medicine that has no basis in science.

You have NO claim to that, obviously.

 

No I don't. There is much information out there concerning that study.

First of all, the study has not be reviewed. It is in preprint, if you know how science works.

Next, it is a "records" study that can not determine the effect on results that comes from the differences in behavior of those who fall into the various categories. Thus there is plenty of room for serious skewing.

There have been multiple prospective, randomized, double-blinded clinical trials that consistently show decidedly different results.

Next, it was picked up and broadcasted for POLITICAL REASONS by a right wing group that refers to Dr. Fauci as the further and otherwise depends on ad hom for it's "thinking".

Finally, it really does not even MATTER, because these results offer NO other rational way than vaccination for defending against COVID.

After all, catching COVID in order to gain immunity would be just plain STUPID, because of the risk COVID poses to those who are not vaccinated.



YOU need to look farther than your stupid Fox news. That is NOT a source of science based medicine.

 

Nope. It has not been properly studied and tested by either the CDC or the FDA.

It's interesting that these countries that have been using ivermectin (and are MUCH less vaccinated) have much less COVID issues than we do, eh?

Oh really? Then why are USA cases "skyrocketing" again? Why do we need "booster shots"?

Masks do not filter out viruses. Their pores are far too large.

That's what YOU are doing right now... Giving out fake solutions instead of actual ones. Padding Big Pharma's pocketbook instead of helping people to live healthy lifestyles and to take care of their immune systems.

Science is not a degree.

 

You are totally wrong about that. But, feel free to cite something indicating this view of yours.

And, I don't mean cite more homeopathic garbage - I mean legitimate science.

There are many reasons for ANY disease to be more intense in one region than the next.

So, this is just you trying to use your FAKE ideas of what science means.

Immunity to SARS (from any source) has been found to NOT be permanent.

Plus, SARS is evolving. The delta version is far more easy to pass to someone else.

Yeah, see that's where you just plain refuse to listen to ANY source. The fact that viruses are extremely small is just not the controlling factor. But, that has been told to YOU by MANY posters already.

WTF?? You REALLY went off the deep end that time.

 

Breakthrough cases in Cape Cod cluster raise questions at CDC (msn.com)

75% of the July cases there were amongst the vaccinated. You missed it 6 weeks ago when it was news.