Gallup- Support for same-sex marriage hits new high majority-

Since marriage is not natural in any form (it is a human construct), they have no point. And if you're going to try to appeal to "tradition", well, see the above post.

And they use those comparisons to dehumanize gay people.

 

You are always out in outer space. The poster was talking about traditions IN THIS COUNTRY! So now that homos opened the door to ALL kinds of marriages, will you complain when people push to try and marry siblings, animals, children, multiple people? How about inanimate objects? See, if you believe that the 14th amendment applies in the homo situation, doesn't it then apply to EVERY form of marriage for EVERY group that's out there? If not, why only the homos and nobody else? Are you a bigot of some sort?

 

You made my point for me. You don't know the difference between humans and animals, or adults and children. And if you don't know why certain marriages will remain illegal, you've got serious issues. It does not apply to all groups at all.

 

I've been to plenty of Republican conventions and too many of them are just set in their ways. I think a lot of these "traditionalist" platform ideas won't go away until the members do.

 

Sure they do. Anything to get away from the lack of scientific fact about homosexuality being natural or genetic. Throw out all the strawmans you like it won't change what your own body does.

Polls mean nothing. Votes mean everything and the vast majority of votes have been against gay marriage even in the most blue of states.

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LOL right. And liberals are so open minded.

 

There was a poster on another forum many years ago named Lenny Flank, who is remembered for Lenny's Law -- that creationists cannot help being creationists, and will shoot themselves in the foot every time, no matter how hard they try to redirect their aim elsewhere.

On this forum, Lenny lives! The bigots simply cannot help looking at consenting adults and seeing groups of animals. It's a dead cinch guarantee that as soon as same-sex marriage comes up, some of the bigots will pop up to say that same-sex marriage is just like marrying rocks, trees, and chickens. They simply can't help themselves. The true bigot inside can't be kept in check; it will always find a way to the surface.

 

Atheism should be no problem for people of faith. If it is then it's their faith which is lacking.

Homosexuality should be no problem for heterosexuals. If it is it's the heterosexuality which is lacking.

It's pretty straightforward, really.

 

Traditional marriage??? Umm the only reason the church got involved in marriage is like most things moeny was to be made.

 

I guess this is your way to hide your head in the sand?

 

Thank you for sharing your (somewhat) arrogant OPINION!

 

Of course the right wing posters will try to ignore this completely.

Funny how all those "liberal activist judges" who keep ruling in favor of gay marriage have for a large degree been George W. Bush appointees.

 

Gay Marriage is like adding to the sexually promiscuous climate in America.
In the end, this creates a nation with half the kids suffering Child Abuse because they have no father.

 

Right in every case there.
But you forget about the kids and the present Child Abuse for the fatherless half of them.



Biological, 2 parent home is safest environment for children
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WASHINGTON, D.C., May 8, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A new study just released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reveals that children living in traditional, two-parent biological families are overwhelmingly safer than children living with just one biological parent or with non-parental caregivers.

 

Clearly if this was something anyone was confident in, there is no need for all these court cases, just take the issue straight to the people through referendum or whatnot... I'll wait...

 

I wish they did!. ..but human rights should never depends on what the majority of people decides "human rights" means.

If inter racial marriage had been voted on. ..it probably would still be illegal. . . although today, ONLY racists would vote against it!

How about women's right to vote? Since women were not allowed to vote, that right would never have been recognized. ..and yet, WOMEN are probably the future of America!

EVERY YEAR more people realize that gay rights are CONSTITUTIONAL. . .and the last vote that rejected that principle was. . .when?

Was it 2008? Look at the trend (among ALL types of voters, including Republicans!) over the last 6 years!

Yes. . .I wouldn't mind having a vote. . .but in the mean time, why should we delay the inevitable!

Gay Rights are EVERYONE's RIGHTS!

 

Dave, marriage makes people LESS promiscuous. You really do need to read up on this a little.

Dawkins was right, beating on kids with bibles is child abuse, and they grow up as mindless as happened to you.

 

I am very sorry. . .but this is one of the dumbest comments I have ever read!

Marriage (whether gay marriage or heterosexual marriage) is the best way to CUT DOWN on promiscuity in America! This is about 1 to 1 commitment!

And why would two men or two women marrying create more cases of child abuse? Do you think child abuse happens only in homosexual families? or in single parent families? I think it is in fact the opposite! Child abuse often occurs in two parents (or in a non-married heterosexual partnership) family!

Where do you get that concept? Please post some links.

 

And if the majority of the people decided to outlaw guns, would you willingly go along with the Will of the People?

The bill of rights exists because the founders KNEW that if certain basic rights were not protected, the majority would vote them away from the minority. The vision of democracy being three wolves and a sheep voting on dinner was not lost on them, like it is on you.

Or do you only support majorities voting to take people's rights away when they're people you dislike,so that makes it OK?

 

Child abuse can happen in any home and has nothing to do with whether it's a single parent home or not.

Try telling that to kids who've been beaten senseless and/or raped in a bio 2 parent home.

Kids do best in a nurturing, loving, and supportive environment. That's all that matters and can happen in any number of ways and relationship configurations.

 

These polls are just meaningless? Makes sense...

 

They could outlaw guns, but then they'd have to go get them, and that's where that problem ends...

For the most part this wasn't just simple majorities voting, it was actual amendments to the state constitutions, totally different ballgame...

 

I'm not sure what you are referring to . . .but he Gallup polls are NOT meaningless, and they show a definite trend toward acceptance and support for gay rights. . . which should reflect what would happen if people were able to vote on this issue TODAY (not 6 years ago).

I do understand how difficult it is for you to deal with the "evolution" in public opinion. . .but it would be silly to ignore it!

But then again.. . .you may have a problem with reading comprehension?

 

So go amend the state constitutions again, I fail to see why that's a problem if you have the support, or are you guys worried it wouldn't work out that way so you rely on the courts?

 

Silly! Obviously you are not looking at the general population polls!

I feel really bad that, based on your comments, you are stuck in a time warp 5 to 8 years old!

That's okay. . . .the future will tell!

 

What a load of crap. People will do as they please regardless of whether they have a marriage certificate or not.