Gallup- Support for same-sex marriage hits new high majority-

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  1. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    Are you saying that gay people have no moral standards?
     
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    It worked to re-program America away from discrimination against African Americans, why wouldn't it work to reprogram people away from discrimination against homosexuals?
     
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    Apparently Tahuyaman think it is moral to discriminate against us.
     
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    How does it matter if the words came from an apostle who never met Jesus, if the words of Jesus and the Old Testament you discount as well? The conscience and sense of fairness that you adhere to, it is neither conscionable or fair in its application.
     
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    That would be the courts who believe they dont have respect and dignity.
    Men and women in a sexual relation arent encouraged to marry in order to disrespect gays. They are so encouraged because they might give birth to a child.
    Matrimony, Latin root of the word, Mater. MOTHER. Only women give birth and men are morally and legally held responsible for them doing so. The resriction doesnt have a thing to do with sexual orientation so not sure why the gays and their advocates think this is direspectful to gays. Its BIOLOGY that requires a man and a woman, OF ANY sexual orientation.
     
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    Opponents of same sex marriage have no logical or rational argument - the younger generations are dismissing many of the old beliefs of propaganda and intolerance.

    Congratulations on raising such well rounded and intelligent children, you could probably teach a few here who have stated they are more interested in indoctrinating their children to hate rather than teach them values.

    Cheers
     
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    I agree- it was a great anecdote. And reflects what I hear from my kids friends.
     
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    Well the issue concerning Blacks was civil rights, but for the Gays, the issue is Sexual Promiscuity Vs Sexual Prudence which opposes Feminist Harlots and Gay practices.
     
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    What is it that merits marriage between two gay guys that wouldnt be present in the case of any two consenting adults who desire to be married? The merit of reducing the number of children born to single mothers with absent or unknown fathers is only served in the case of heterosexual couples.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? Marriage has nothing to do with promiscuity.
     
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    Id say the endorsement of kids isnt the best foundation of policy.
     
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    Very very very important thing here...

    The women are the Key to what happens with Gayness in America.
    Today, they support Gayness especially since their Hair Dresser, Fashion Designers, Home Decorators, etc are their "best friends."

    But this will change if these straight women realize that fatherless kids are seriously abused by single mothers raising them, or divorced women, lesbians, and Gays,... etc.
     
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    I think the Constitutional argument I and many courts have made is both logical and rational. The only propaganda is this judicial fiction that marriage has been limited to men and women in order to exclude homosexuals, motivated by animus towards homosexuals. Absurd, false propaganda
     
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    Non-divorce Marriage was the Institution wherein kids were raised to believe sex could and should occur.
     
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    Homosexual "marriage" is a farce, in that they do no last beyond 7 years in 70% of the cases and now, today, are the MAJOR cause of passing on HIV/AIDS due to infidelity 6-10 times annually.
     
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    No, YOU just said gays want to be treated with dignity and respect...and you oppose that.

    So obviously you want them treated with disrespect and degradation.

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    cupid, you know absolutely nothing about women....but you have some strong opinions about them, that's for sure.

    Mostly negative.
     
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    Not "Dave," but the Facts:

    The FACTS are based upon Scientific Studies that say Gay Marriage are intended to unfaithful relationships from the start, and 6-10 infidelities occur on average:



    High Rates Of Sexual Promiscuity
    Dr. Maria Xiridou published a study in a 2003 edition of AIDS, which reveals that homosexual couples in Amsterdam engage in what can be called consensual infidelity.
    Dr. Xiridou was studying the spread of HIV among homosexuals in The Netherlands and found that HIV was spread more rapidly among homosexual couples who considered themselves to be in “steady” relationships.
    These couples failed to engage in “safe sex” and were involved in 6-10 additional sexual encounters outside of the primary relationship each year.

    Those who considered their sexual relationships “casual” engaged in 16-28 sexual encounters outside of the primary relationship each year.
    (AIDS, 17:1029-1038, 2003)
     
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    What legal principle? I don't advocate laws regulating marriage in any way, shape or form. You haven't read the dozens of posts I've made stating as much? When the homofascists are kicking church doors down and arresting pastors for speaking against homosexuality, then we'll see how dedicated you are to legal principles. Now, I'm probably guilty of doing the same thing you just did, which is put you in a world view box in which you may not belong.
     
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    LOL

    Maybe.
    But I do know they made Animal Cruelty a sin, and Politically Incorrect enough that it almost forced a great quarter back out of Football.
     
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    "When the Homophobes are putting gays in concentration camps and gassing them...."


    of your scenario or my scenario.....which has actually happened in real life?
     
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    Nothing has to happen to Gays at all.
    Just be silent and invisible along with the prudent thoughtful women and no one will do anything to anyone.
     
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    Which is actually happening in Western democracies? There are no concentration camps for gays in any Western society. There are, however, hate speech laws.

    Why did you walk right into that one? You're making it too easy.
     
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    I'm serious. From your posts, it's clear that you not only hate gays, you have a negative view of women.... as the "seducers of men" or something. (Part of your overall "sexual promiscuity" routine). Poor men, tempted by the wiles of those harlots, into losing their virginity before their wedding night.

    "virgin/whore complex"....pretty standard stuff.

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    YL, of your scenario of "kicking church doors down and arresting pastors for speaking against homosexuality"....

    or MY scenario of evil bigots sending gays to concentration camps and killing them....

    which has actually happened?
     
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    WTF? So we're just supposed to go away? That's not going happen. What are you going to do about it?
     
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    Again, that is your OPINION, and it isn't mine! We both have the right to express our opinions, but why arguing over it?

    And, NO, I do not take the Old testament or the (often repeated and translated by mouth) new testament as the literal words of God or Jesus.

    And I believe that, rejecting people for their sexuality is unconscionable and unfair.

    To each its own. . .and I am very much at peace with my conscience, thank you.
     
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