Gay, Trans.

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  1. RoanokeIllinois

    RoanokeIllinois Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trans, Men, Women, Biology, Science, Gays, and Democrat hypocrisy, and being illogical.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Well-Known Member Donor

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    From a scientific aspect, if everyone turned gay tomorrow, the human race would cease to exist, at least from a natural, biological stand point of view.

    Now, even if you don't believe in God, Scientifically, and chemically, being gay is no different than having a Mental Health disorder. For both, are a chemical imbalance, within the body.

    Now, from a Religious aspect. It does say in the Bible, that if a man lays with a man, or a woman with a woman, to stone them do death. I do believe, that is too much, but biologically, scientifically, chemically, and religious wise, all are logically and/or morally against Gays.

    Trans- "I think, therefore, I am." ~Self Identification.
    If you think that you're black, and are really a white person, are you really black?
    If you think that you're a woman, and are really a natural born biological man, are you really a woman? Of course not!

    But where does the buck stop? If any person can self identify as a woman, or minority, then doesn't that take away the specialness of actually being a woman, or black, or minority? Doesn't that take away rights from them? For example: Special small buisness loans for women, or blacks, or minorities. Special Grants for things, or colleges. Special loans.
    ~What about equality? What about Oppression? If a white person, self Identifies as a black person, and the Democrats allow that, then wouldn't it take away rights from real black people? Or what about women? Is it ok to have biological men, in women's bathrooms? or if something is physical, such as a sport, how is it ok, to have a biological man, in a womans sport? what about women's rights then? rights to privacy.

    How can a natural born woman, ever be proud to be a woman, with the Democrat Politicians supposedly supporting equal rights, and equality for women, but also trans, that self identify as women(making it fake, and unauthentic)?

    How can a natural born black person, ever be proud to be black, with the Democrat Politicians supposedly supporting equal rights and equality for all blacks, but also anyone who "self Identifies", as a black person.

    The answer? They can't! The two things contradict each other.
     
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    So, if I'm understanding you correctly, anybody that does not look, love or worship the way you think is "right" has some kind of mental disorder. Where did you do your doctoral studies in psychology or psychiatry?
     
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    Hey I have a goal for you. Try using the same sentence structure we all learned in 5th grade. Try adding a verb so we know what you want us to understand.
     
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    from the school of hard knocks. First hand experience. I've had mental health issues, most of my life. Starting as a child.

    and I'd much rather not be in the party of pity, and whininess, and excuses, and reparations, and always playing the victim.

    I'd rather have to earn the respect of others, and overcome my issues. But, hey! that's just me personally.
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Well-Known Member Donor

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    ok! things like Critical Race Theory, being taught to kindergarteners, by Democrats, and the teacher unions being backed by the Democrat Politicians, to also teach sexual education to a kindergartener as well. That's pretty sick.

    Teaching a kindergartener about trans people.

    "Freedom isn't free."! Teaching a kindergartener that everything should be handed to them, without working for it, and that they're always the victim. That's how you raise a generation of gutless cowards for the most part, and that is what the Democrat Politicians, and the teachers unions have already done! With a lot of millennials.
     
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    So, I take it that you aren't a Trump fan? He's the biggest pity party whiner on the planet right now.

    Also, don't have an advanced degree in any mental health field?

    Therefore, on what authority are you claiming to know the "issues" behind other people's actions and behaviors?
     
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    A person may have 10 Phd's with their name on a piece of paper. Just because they do so, it doesn't impress me, for the most part. yes, they need it to be a doctor of medicine, or of surgery, and in that aspects, I definately respect them for sure. But for most degrees out there, there is a difference between a degree, and common sense, and street smarts, and logic, and morality.

    Unfortunately, now adays, Democrats and their leaders, put to much emphasis on a degree, or education. Democrat Politicians do this, so they can try and brainwash, and indoctrinate children, and even adults that go into school, into believing and thinking the way they do. This is why any coach, or professor in college, that doesn't add up to the Liberal Agenda, continues to get fired now adays.
     
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    Asinine assertion on your part. Lesbian woman have children the same way MANY heterosexual couples have reproduced over the last 40 years - artificial
    insemination or with a designated male approved by both partners. Many gay men have reproduced children - some not coming out until afterwards -
    some using surrogates (just as many heterosexual couples do).

    So your "scientific" aspect is just plain silly - way too many variables within the set of homosexual and reproduction.

    As for "taking away" rights - that's equally silly. It's just adding one more person to the roster of a group. There have always been bigots who claim
    a person "isn't white enough," or "isn't Oriental enough". or whatever else you want to plug in - but it's all just a construct. Some people get so wrapped
    up in it that they tend to forget we're all "human" first and foremost.
     
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    I had to listen to Trump play the victim card for four years, so forgive me calling BS on your post.
     
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    OK. None of that answered any of my questions.
     
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    Daniel, he is still playing the victim card. It's been 4+ years and counting.
     
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    Do you know what CRT is outside of wherever you developed that opinion of it?
     
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    Do you know what CRT is outside of wherever you developed that opinion of it?
     
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    So it is a sin to remain unmarried and abstain, according to your "logic." If everyone did it, we'd be in the same boat. Man, Jesus was such a sinner. Good thing we never followed his example, huh?
     
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    Transgenderism is a mental disorder. Not understanding reality and believing you are something you are not is schizophrenic. THAT is science.
     
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    I read somewhere that transgenders have brains that developed similar to the opposite sex which would seem to make sense why they identify with the opposite sex?

    In one of these studies, sexual orientation had no effect on the diffusivity measured. A 2016 review reported that early-onset androphilic transgender women have a brain structure similar to cisgender women's and unlike cisgender men's, but that they have their own brain phenotype.

    Causes of gender incongruence - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Causes_of_gender_incon...
     
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    So gender dysmorphia is a real thing?
     
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    I only did a cursory glance, and I dont claim to have the correct impression but that is the impression I got, that in many (not all) cases its physiological.
     
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    I’m sure it is physiological since the mind does exist in the physical realm as so does the body. But if nature decides we are to be men or women by the shape of our chromosomes who are we to argue.
     
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    Ok so what do we call people with plumbing from both sexes, since that occurs in nature?

    so who do these people sleep with? The goat?
     
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    We call them whatever they are.
     
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    But how is that determined? Doublemint? Double your flavor double your fun? :roflol:
     
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    Why?
    Is it? Which chemical? Is it too much or not enough? Why hasn't neurology discovered this? We can treat chemical imbalances with drugs why isn't their straightinol the drug that makes gays straight? Neuroscience has determined quite a few different chemicals in the brain.
    It doesn't really a lot of people interpret parts of the Bible to condemn same sex relationships but it never does.

    Not really. Nothing except for people are against gays they interpret support from science or religion but this is mostly to reflect their opinions. On average 12% of women and 16% of men never mate with the opposite sex. Biology and nature creates more people than it needs you are not complaining about this much bigger segment of the population and their defect? It's because they don't do something that you don't like. Blaming nature for your prejudice isn't a good argument
    Well some people who are white claim to be black so yeah. Megan Markle and Shawn King come to mind. They are clearly white people but they both claim to be black.
    Agreed.
     
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    Some people simply have to accept certain things about themselves. That's actually one way of overcoming issues.
     
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