You must really love those wet dreams. A clearly uninformed statement like yours above can only be derived from some sort of recurring orgasmic dream. Hope you have plenty of tissue on... er, in hand.
Colonel Mead commander US Marines Lebanon 1980's and I quote. "The Israelis think they are pretty good but they are a fourth rate army fighting a seventh rate army" http://books.google.com/books?id=o1...rate army fighting a fourth rate army&f=false
I do agree that the arab armies are all of poor quality. But a more objective subjective opinion can be found here. http://www.globalfirepower.com/
Yoohoo. Whose was the seventh rate army the fourth rate Israelis were supposed to be fighting? Perhaps you should review the link I provided and educate yourself as to what a first class military consists of. I'd say that being in the top 10 militaries of the world is not fourth rate. Even if globalfirepower is off by a few places in their assessment, its a long way from being fourth rate. You have just reinforced my claim that you are uninformed. You tend to take the worst opinions you can find of Israeli whathaveyou, regardless of the source, accuracy or is plurality and then use that opinion in support of your negative viewpoint. It can be a very effective tactic against similarly uninformed opponents, but makes you appear foolish when your opponent knows considerably more than you do. It is an observed tactic you share with marlowe.
You seem to have forgotten what you posted. You claimed that my opinion of israel being a fourth rate army when they were in the Lebanon in the early 1980's was uninformed so I provided to you a quote from the US Marines commander Colonel Mead in Lebanon at the time describing the israeli army as fourth rate,so my opinion was anything but uninformed. My case is proven. Bye.
Ah, so a single source makes you informed. No wonder you aren't. What criteria did he use to support this contention? What is the difference between a fourth rate and seventh rate or a first rate? If you don't know that, then all you are is a parrot, and parrots ain't informed. I find that people who are quick to declare their case proven generally havent. TTFN
I don't understand how you can call them butchers when in each instance The isrealis are just responding too an attack Lebanon use too be a beautiful place nowadays its psycho over there Ok,ok I will apologize if you think I was trying too belittle you. I wanst I wass making a hot baited comment in respond too what. As I saw As a provocative post.....call someone or groups a butcher Isn't honest when you look at the situation of what has been happenin To isreal...it is a response too very cowardice groups With their cheapshot attacks so why would you expect nothing in response This is what I don't understand about you people who claim isreal or the west Is doing all this butchering And believe you me I am a firm idealist of a foreign policy that is 180 degress As too regards. With the US in with how they've conducted this brutal an imperialist system Of foreign policy that has gone nutts since WWII YOU WONT FIND WITH ANY OBJECTIONS AS TOO A REVERSAL IN POLICIES
The opinion of the US commander of the marines in Lebanon is probably one of the most informed opinions you will get. 1. He was an army officer of good standing and long service. 2. He was there when the Israelis were shooting at the Americans so saw at first hand how bad the Israelis military were.
Of course you do not understand and that is because you obviously failed to read any books on the subject and form your opinions from rightwing zionist nutter websites.
That point seems to have passed him by. The Israelis are fighting what amounts to some guys with AK47's and some home made crap rockets. Where as the Israelis have all the latest tech from the Americans and still could not beat Hizbollah in 2006.
Not imagined,they are in all the reputable history books(not the zionist BS ones you read of course).
Nonsense. You are really trying too hard to preserve a intellectual dignity you obvioulsy don't have. Single sources of subjective opinion do not make one informed. Israelis shooting at americans? must of missed that war.
I agree that the Israelis used the wrong tactics in Lebannon in 2006. They thought it was going to be essentially like the last time they invaded and boy were they wrong. OTOH, if there is a next time, Hezbollah is going to get a big surprise. As for denigrating the quality of an armed force because their opponents are far weaker or incompetent, then I guess the US and NATO are terrible forces as well.
No it is not nonsense. It is the informed opinion of the US commander of Marines in the Lebanon in the 1980's and nothing you say is going to make it uninformed. He was there,you were not. He had to deal with the Israeli firing on his marines,you did not. He saw at first hand,you did not. So please save your silly arguments for those dumb enough to believe them,try bendor.
Not very good at history I think. You can read about it here. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/p-neff.html
It is telling how you advocate genocide in the name of Israel. Often, it seems as if Israel is the leading advocate of Holocausts, contrary to the interests of the American Guilt Complex member.
I see you can't tell the difference between subjective "opinion" and objective evaluation. Was his comment really informed or simply a result of increasing frustration? did he see the Israeli armoured divisions fight, or the air force in combat. No, what he saw was the deliberate agitation by the IDF against the supposed UN neutral peacekeeping force - the marines. It was a tactic by Israel - a smart one as it turned out 'cause it worked. Over a very short period of time, the US marines went from being viewed as neutral peacekeepers to active supporters of Israel. do you know your history?
Your the one bringing up isreal Like usual always obsessed with race,religion,sex,sex preferences You all an your identity politics grow up already You all are the ones keepn racism an hate alive you just wont let it go