General Patton after WW II: "We defeated the wrong enemy"

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  1. Flare

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    Seems there's a problem with the translation, because in another version of Mein Kampf it reads "suppression" (of France) in stead of "destruction".

    Besides that, I see you have skipped the following essential part, which describes the French occupation of the German Ruhr-area due to the Treaty of Versailles, the industrial heart of the nation:

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr
     
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    The Jericho Trumpets

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    So the people shouted, and priests blew the trumpets; and when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted with a great shout and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight ahead, and they took the city - Joshua 6:20

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    The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka (from Sturzkampfflugzeug, "dive bomber") was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft designed by Hermann Pohlmann and first flew in 1935. The Ju 87 made its combat debut in 1937 with the Luftwaffe's Condor Legion during the Spanish Civil War. It served the Axis forces in World War II.

    The aircraft was easily recognisable by its inverted gull wings and fixed spatted undercarriage. Upon the leading edges of its faired main gear legs were mounted the Jericho-Trompete ("Jericho trumpet") wailing sirens, becoming the propaganda symbol of German air power and the blitzkrieg victories of 1939–1942. The Stuka's design included several innovative features, including automatic pull-up dive brakes under both wings to ensure that the aircraft recovered from its attack dive even if the pilot blacked out from the high g-forces.

    The Ju 87 operated with considerable success in the close air support and anti-shipping at the outbreak of World War II. It spearheaded the air assaults in the Invasion of Poland in September 1939 and the Norwegian Campaign the following year. In May 1940 the Ju 87s were crucial in the rapid conquest of the Netherlands, Belgium and France against all targets. Although sturdy, accurate, and very effective against ground targets, the Ju 87, like many other dive bombers of the war, was vulnerable to modern fighter aircraft. During the Battle of Britain a lack of manoeuvrability, speed and defensive armament meant that the Stuka required a heavy fighter escort to operate effectively.

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    Wochenschau | Junkers Ju 87 'Stuka' – Jericho Trumpet / Siren

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    The main thing in my post there is:

    "Germany actually regards the destruction of France as only a means which will afterward enable her finally to give our people the expansion made possible elsewhere. :
     
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    France didn't get destroyed during WW II at all, they were only occupied after the "Lightning war" (which was very short), the Masonic government removed for a pro-Reich government.

    Life just went on as usueal during the occupation.
     
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    What does France?[​IMG]
    "... France as only a means which will afterward enable her finally to give our people the expansion made possible elsewhere. "

    Hitler planned these "the expansion" in 1926. (The attack on Russia, and Poland) France was "as only a means" for these "the expansion"
     
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    Read again how France occupied the heart of German industry: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=468435&page=11&p=1066507623#post1066507623

    Then view this picture:

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    Germany demanded they would also have the right for colonies, just as the French and British had:

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    But that didn't mean they had to expand on France itself.
     
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    I agree with you. And does this "mean that they had to expand on Russia itself "?
     
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    Guys I am afraid that we are fighting truly the wrong enemy, and its not the Russians, Germany made a mistake it attacked all I dont understand Hitler... But I understand that we should not look upon each other as enemies.. Russians, or Americans. We should unite because our enemy is Islam....
     
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    Well, the problem with Russia was that it had been taken over by the Bolsheviks and they even changed the countries name from Russia to Soviet Union.
    Millions of Russians got tortured, executed or sent off to the gulags by them.

    [video=youtube;qwR0jT5R0P8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwR0jT5R0P8[/video]

    The Germans waged war (which was a pre-emptive strike as Stalin was building up a huge invasion army) on the communists and tried to free the Russians from the terror which was laid upon them.

    Once the Germans entered Russia there wasn't much modern to be found, as the communists didn't really care about building up the nation. At least, there wasn't much of high-quality. All railroads were rusty, lots of buildings burnt down due to 'scorched earth' policy from Stalin. And a lot of building structures they found were cheap / low-quality.

    Within the timespan of about 1,5 years under German occupation the railroads were brand-new again, trainstations rebuilt, factories opened, churches opened...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-Christian-crusader-Nazis-World-War-II.html

    So things weren't bad at all under German control.

    Maybe the Germans would have expanded on part of Russia, but I think that wouldn't have been a bad idea, because 1. Russia is gigantic and 2. Germans are good ppl.
    One thing is for sure if that would have been the case; the Russians would have benefitted greatly by having the Germans with christian values as their neighbour.

    But I don't know exactly what the plans would have been for post WWII Russia if the Germans would have won. Maybe interesting to look-up?
     
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    Nothing interesting for the Russians.

    If the Germans would have won....

    The entire western part of the USSR to the Volga River and the Caucasus (oil) would belong to Germany today. Russians would be as attendants for the Germans.

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    Nah... that's all anti-German propaganda from after the war. Russians woud still have their culture and traditions... free from tyrannical communism.

    We dreamed of something marvellous

    [video=youtube;iEeSPc5oTcM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM[/video]
     
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    You want to say that Hitler wanted to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks, Stalin, .... and leave Russia?
     
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    If Hitler Won World War II We'd Have A Better, More Just World Today
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    By James Miller, PhD

    Legendary U.S. General George S. Patton realized late in the war that the United States fought the wrong country. Patton felt the U.S. should have sided with Germany to destroy Jewish Bolshevik/Communist USSR. This information comes from Patton's diary entries, letters he wrote to his wife, and comments he made to military officers and staff.

    World War II was incredibly complex. However, in the final analysis, WWII was essentially a war between two competing ideologies: Nationalism -vs- Jewish Internationalism/globalism. Adolf Hitler and his allies fought to preserve the concept of Nationalism, not just for Germans but for all peoples the world over. Nationalism really just means the sovereignty of an ethnic people and the right of such ethnic people/nationalists - within their own bordered country - to self-determination. What is meant by self-determination? Self-determination just means an ethnic people preserving their unique culture & heritage and pursuing their collective goals as a unique people. This applies to any ethnic peoples: Nigerians, Germans, Swedes, Vietnamese, Mexicans, Tibetans, etc.

    On the other side of WWII was Jewish (Bolshevik) Internationalism (today we simply call this 'globalism'). In the 1920's, 1930's, and of course during WWII, powerful Jewish Internationalists were fervently advancing the Jewish worldview of eventually eliminating all nations... except for a Jewish homeland... (what was later to be - after WWII - the nation of Israel in 1948). Today we see that nothing has changed; Jewish Internationalism/globalism still works toward gradually "merging" all peoples of the world (particularly in the Western World) into one globalist system with a global government, global laws, consistent global culture, global bank, global currency, etc. In short, Jewish globalism (i.e., the weakening and eventual elimination of all nations) is the exact opposite of Nationalism (i.e., a world composed of nations ... specifically, ethnically homogenous and bordered nations). The Allied powers of WWII (led by Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, et al) were tools of International Jewry and thus de facto fighting for the Jewish globalist worldview. After the (Jewish run) Allies won WWII in 1945, International Jewish forces were then free to exercise a Jewish 'Sphere of Influence' over the greater Western World (and as we see today, increasingly over the rest of the world).

    Alternatively, if Hitler had won World War II and then exercised a Nationalist 'Sphere of Influence' over the greater Western World, we'd have a more just, fair, and moral Western World today. The rest of the world would have similarly benefited had the Germans been victorious since German influence would have surely spread elsewhere (ideas such as non-usurious banking and strong family oriented culture would likely have spread globally).

    Had Hitler won World War II, what would be different in the post war world? Here are a few examples:

    1 - No USSR (the Soviet government murdered millions of its own people during its 70 year reign - to study this topic read the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; Hitler would have liberated the USSR, though taking large parts of its Western region for lebensraum, "living space")

    2 - No cold war (because there would be no USSR)

    3 - No Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain (when WWII ended, Eastern Europe fell to Communism - this was part of Stalin's spoils of war)

    4 - No Red China and Mao's subsequent killing of 40 - 60 million Chinese (the USSR created favorable conditions for Mao's Communists which ultimately led to Mao's victory over Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in 1949, thus if no USSR, no Mao victory)

    5 - No Communist North Vietnam (both the Soviet Union and Red China aided Ho Chi Minh)

    6 - No Communist Cambodia and Pol Pot's slaughter of 2 million Cambodians (Red China aided Pol Pot)

    7 - No dividing Korea into North Korea & South Korea (the Allies split Korea after WWII ended, with North Korea becoming Communist... another of Stalin's spoils of war)

    8 - No Communist Cuba (given the previous, what support would Castro have had in the 1950's?)

    9 - No Communism anywhere (Hitler was the world's most fervent anti-Communist)

    10 - Liberalism & multiculturalism wouldn't dominate Western ethos (both are Jewish creations and both have always been heavily promoted/advanced by Jews; thus if no Jewish influence, then no liberalism and no multiculturalism... at least certainly nowhere near the degree we see today)

    11 - No Cultural Marxism and no political correctness (these are social engineering "tools" which came out of the Jewish think tank known as the Frankfurt School)

    12 - No third world immigration into Western nations (Jews wouldn't be in power positions to craft and force through liberal immigration laws; Jews are responsible for each and every Western nation's liberal immigration policy/laws, as all were orchestrated by a consortium consisting of the World Jewish Congress, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and B'nai B'rith)

    13 - No depraved filth on TV, in movies, etc. (because Jews wouldn't run Hollywood)

    14 - No widespread pornography (Jewish lawyers and Jewish activists were the main challengers of anti-obscenity laws, under the guise of "Freedom of Speech")

    15 - There would still be prayer in public schools (Jewish lawyers were instrumental in banning prayer in public schools under the guise of so-called "separation of church and state," something that appears nowhere in the U.S. Constitution)

    16 - No man-hating radical feminist movement (Jews such as Betty Friedan, Sonia Pressman, and Gloria Steinem, among others, were the key drivers of radical feminism)

    17 - No Israel and all the problems it has brought the USA and the immeasurable misery it has wrought on the Palestinians

    18 - Jews would be living in Madagascar (perhaps) and would be carefully monitored (Madagascar was one place Hitler considered as a Jewish homeland)

    Many reading this will ask, "But what about the Holocaust?" The Holocaust has been grossly exaggerated by organized Jewry in order to create sympathy for Jews worldwide and thus help advance the Jewish agenda (i.e., people seen as victims tend to get their way). It is also used as a political weapon to justify Israeli militarism against the Palestinians. Hitler's Final Solution (rebranded in the early 1970's as the "Holocaust") was a plan to remove Jews from Europe, not to kill them. During WWII, just as the U.S. couldn't trust Japanese Americans, thus causing FDR to round many of them up and place them in concentration camps, Hitler couldn't trust Jews since many were partisans sympathetic to the USSR and hence they aided the USSR in various subversive, anti-German activities. Therefore the Nazis rounded up Jews and placed them in concentration camps.

    Somewhere around one million Jews died during WWII (not six million) mostly due to disease and starvation in the final months of the war. Heavy Allied bombing of Germany and parts of German occupied Europe destroyed many roads, rail lines, and bridges making it impossible for Germany to adequately supply the camps with food and medicine. The result is that many Jews died of starvation and disease; and of course many non-Jews also died of starvation and disease (again, due to a massive Allied bombing campaign and its destruction of German transportation infrastructure). Lastly, there were no "gas chambers." Much has been written about this. To study the "gas chamber" subject, read the research papers published by Germar Rudolf & Carlo Mattogno (there are many others as well). To get a broad overview of the Holocaust, read my article, What Was The Holocaust... What Actually Happened?

    It should also be noted that Hitler never wanted to "conquer the world." He simply wanted to safeguard Europe and the greater Western World from all manner of nefarious Jewish influence and, more broadly, safeguard the world-at-large specifically from, 1) usurious Jewish banking and, 2) Jewish-driven cultural degradation.

    As previously stated, the Allied heads-of-State (Roosevelt, Churchill, et al) were puppets of International Jewry; each sold his soul for power and prestige. Again, as earlier stated, World War II was a war between two competing ideologies: Nationalism -vs- Jewish Bolshevik Internationalism/globalism -- unfortunately International Jewry won.

    Was World War II "the good war" as is often claimed? No, it was exactly the opposite. The Allied victory marked the beginning of the end of Western Civilization.
     
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    Do You want to say that Hitler wanted to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks, Stalin, .... and leave Russia?



    Is Hitler wanted to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks, Stalin, .... and leave Russia?
     
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    Like I said, they probably would have expanded on part of Russia, but the Russians would have been better anyhow:

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    Russians Celebrate 67th Anniversary Of Victory Day (May 9, 1945)

    Sadly, a lot of Russians aren't any more inquisitive than Americans. They're told, "Hitler was a really bad guy, we had to stop him... end of story." Most Russians accept this.

    However, thanks to the internet, the truth being told. And millions of Russians are now asking two simple questions:

    1. "Just what exactly did we fight for??? - another 45 years of brutal oppression, murder, enslavement, and widespread destitute (i.e. 1945 - 1990)????"

    Then they ask:

    2. "Had Germany won, would life for Soviets have been better than under Stalin & under Communism in general? - Seriously, how could it have been any worse?"

    These are the two taboo questions Russians dare not even ponder. But many are indeed pondering them. And the answers to both questions are obvious to anyone who takes the time to do some research. Some 20,000,000 million Soviets died in WWII... and died for what? For what??? They died so that the brutal oppression of Soviet citizens could continue, which it did.

    Many historians are honestly & objectively re-examining these questions. But many Professors of History ignore these questions because the truth is politically incorrect (and probably would cost them their job, especially if they don't yet have tenure). Academic freedom?? Sure, so long as you follow the official sanctioned view of WWII history.

    The answer to question "1" is, yes, of course that's what Soviets fought for (continued oppression). Most didn't fight willingly as they were conscripted (drafted). Defying Stalin meant certain death. Better to take your chances on the battlefield. And many Soviets bought into the Soviet propaganda (lies) about Germany. Interestingly (or not) hundreds of thousands of Soviets defected and joined the German forces (via the Waffen-SS and other military units) since they correctly saw Germany as their liberator.

    The answer to question "2" is, yes, of course life for the Soviets would have been better had Germany won WWII, much better in fact.

    Regarding Germany policy pertaining to Slavic peoples and the Eastern regions, the following is most likely what would have happened:

    - Germany would take large parts of Eastern territory which, incidentally, were formerly theirs in the old German Empire. They'd also grab a bit more Eastern land (i.e., part of their Lebensraum program). The local populations in those areas would be evaluated for their "Germanification" potential. Those who could be "Germanified" would stay, others would likely be relocated to somewhere east of the Urals. The criteria which determined if one could be Germanified? Well, it wasn't about having blond hair/blue eyes. The German Reich would have looked at family history, any criminal record, intelligence, profession, etc.

    - The East would have been divided into Reichcommisariats i.e., political administrative regions. The geographic boundaries of each Reichcommisariat would be drawn along ethnic lines (of course) to avoid future internal conflicts.

    - Education and social policy for the local Slavs/Russians/Baltics/Ukrainians/etc would be determined by the Slavs/Russians/Baltics/Ukrainians/etc themselves albeit with (likely) guidance and "steering" by the regional Reichcommisariat administrative body. Religion would be allowed (of course). Nobody would be trapped, i.e., one was free to leave their country/Reichcommisariat if they so chose (unlike under Stalin's rule). The economy would likely be Fascist or Fascist-like (see my article here). And if you think Fascism is an "evil" system, you watch far too much TV and Hollywood movies.

    - Military forces would not be allowed in each Reichcommisariat perhaps with the exception of a ceremonial local "force." Germany would provide military defense should it be needed for whatever reason in the future. I suppose a good example/model is Japan and how the USA managed that nation post WWII. Japan was fully permitted to remain Japanese; and we provided them w/ military protection.

    Slovakia and how Germany administered it and its people is a pretty good example (albeit w/ some unique particularities) of how Germany would have administered the Eastern territories.

    Again, would life for the average Slavic person been better had Germany won WWII, definitely yes.

    Lastly, and needless to say, all the nonsense about Hitler wanting to make the East a big slave State to serve the Germany Reich is just that, nonsense (again if you believe that, you watch far too much TV/movies).

    Yes, it's true that Hitler didn't feel Slavs were on the same level as Germans. Regardless, Slavic peoples would have prospered under their protectorate/vassal status under the German Reich.

    Regarding the relocation of Slavs whom the Reich felt could not be Germanified, this really isn't any worse than what did happen after WWII with the mass expulsion of some 12 million Germans from East to West. And it's reasonable to assume that Germany wouldn't have simply "dumped" such Slavs in some area east of the Urals; rather they would have implemented all of the above items I outlined w/ regard to education/social policy/etc.

    As just one Reichskommissariat example, here is a map for the proposed Reichskommissariat of Ukraine:

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    It's disgusting that some people now support Hitler.

    I'm breaking a personal rule of no "ad hominem attacks", but you truly are an ignorant and bigoted person. You have no understanding of international relations, warfare, political science in general, Freemasonry, ethics, and morals...life in general.

    Well, at that time no Grand Orient was recognized. The Grand Orient of Italy is recognized today, but that is relatively new and the Grand Orient of France (and pretty much all other Grand Orients) are still not recognized because they call themselves Masons but they do not follow anything that is actually Masonic.

    ^scapegoating.

    Name them.

    14 of them, that would be less than a third which isn't "most."
     
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    I assume you are a Freemason yourself?

    My first question which arises is 'why are the Masons so secretive?'

    I mean, the Masons have this huge world-wide network and have thousands of (very) powerful people amongst their ranks. With a group like that, one could exert massive influence on the world stage, while keeping the deals secret behind their closed doors. For example, if a president or prime minister is a Mason, he would be more likely to serve the interests of his brotherhood than that of the people, right..?

    Besides that, if we look at the back of the 1 dollar bill (the world currency), then we can see the Masons' signature symbol on the back of it, which clearly show how much power they wield:

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    That is one of the proofs how powerful they are and who are in control.
     
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    hahahaha!!!!

    that's a highly imperfect hexagram
     
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    Neo-Nazi garbage
     
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    It isn't. That is a hexagram.

    Check it on google images.
     
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    its not a hexagram, as a true hexagram has equally sized outer triangles, like this

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    you image is NOT a true hexagram.
     
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    Nope, it is the Truth.

    I hate Neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are to National Socialists what gangster-rap is to blacks.
    Hitler would have sent them all off to go camping.

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    It can also be a pentagram:

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    that's a very imperfect pentagram.

    LOL!!!!
     
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    Laugh about an 'imperfect' pentagram what you want, but it's a pentagram allright.

    Just like the White House is in the bottom tip of a pentagram if you look at the map (you can zoom in on google maps yourself btw)

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    Hi Politica Magus,

    another remarkable thing I found was that if we look at the map of Washington, we can see the US Capitol in the 'eye' above the Masonic pyramid:

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    I mean... that's quite amazing...
     

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