Germany blocks airspace for a Boeing 737 MAX and forces it to land in France

If you have a runway and a plane with no ulterior motives and presents no danger to anybody needs to land, you should let it land. You can decide what to do with your air space. In this case you decided to do the wrong thing.

 

You won't crush Boeing.

 

You can get a good sense of the German mentality here, just as when millions of people dead was seen as an accomplishment. They accomplished a lot at their concentration camps also. It's a serious cultural flaw.

 

Make the right decision next time or others will make it for you.

 

Germany has a military? I'd love to see them goose step again.

 

And cant take off again because it has no license to fly.

 

It is a german / french corporation

 

He had no permission to fly over Germany. The pilot believed he could fly over Germany but did only request to fly over Germany after take off

 

By breaking into airspace, forcing military escorts and a forced landing?

Airlines lost their landing slots for less here.

 

They do the new airline smartwings is forced out of business in Germany, because we dont allow their Max 8 to land or even fly over Germany

http://www.airliners.de/smartwings-deutschland-ableger/51264

 

I don't believe so. Lack of communication by Boeing regarding MCAS and the FAA's failure to be directly involved with the airworthy certification process resulted in the issues regarding the 737 Max. I do believe the airline industry will be fully automated one day.

 

Once the 3d printing of aluminum and titanium is mainstream manufacturing. Airplanes are going to be much different, lets hope it makes them better.

 

That doesnt solve the software problems and wrong center of gravity in this case.

 

You don’t want to 3D print load bearing structures. Metal needs to be heated to very high temperatures to bond to a point where you can put serious stress on it.
3D printing will never work. That’s just the limitation of physics.

 

Having shifted center of gravity in itself is not a big deal. I read somewhere that most military aircraft have shifted center of gravity. It’s a combination of pilot skill and supporting technology (like software) that allow the plane to be airworthy.
When pilot is not aware of it and software goes into a glitch - that’s when things become lethal.

 

We talk about a civilian airliner, not a military aircraft. There are other, much stricter rules working here. The 737-MAX8 has the problem, that it easily gets into a stall. MCAS was instleld to counter this. Unfortunately MCAS reacts to harsh and depends on a singular sensor (what happened to redundat principle?)

What we have here is a flawed design at same level as teh flawed DC-9 / DC-10.

The DC-9 was the first aircraft with cargo doors open outwards. Early tests showed this can cause a fatal chain reaction...

Another design flaw was its 3rd engine implemented in the tailfin. An engine failure automatcly means loss of aircraft in this case.

Both flaws where not corrected and cost hundreds of people life. Cargo doors exploded outwards and the aircraft crashed. Tail engines exploded and made the aircraft uncontrolable so it crashed.


In the case of the 737-MAX8 its worse though. Boeing was in shock because the new A320 ER and they had nothing to compete with it. The 737 is old and they did not want invest in developing a new aircraft. They twisted the old fuselage so much, its not working anymore.

 

We're more like Germans than we'd like to acknowledge.

 

But you lack the will for perfection.

 

Fix the software and move on. Modern airliners are flying bricks because bricks (with tiny wings) cost less to fly.

No, it can use multiple censors if the purchaser is willing to pay.

Stop propagandizing the forum about Boeing planes.

 

Nonsense.

 

Who is this 'we'? Will America invade Canada or Mexico for more lebensraum?

 

Americans, absolute majority of them, have very good work ethics. Everyone tries to do their absolute best to get a job done. That’s what makes the US what it is - the services and products of the US are of great quality. Having said that, once Americans are done with work they don’t seem to care that much about surroundings - so you can see a good worker throwing gum, trash out, not in a garbage bin, listening to loud music and has “I don’t give a ****” attitude. Americans are even willing to bend some rules - if you are on a flight and it’s late and there is a connecting flight, the connecting flight might actually wait for you (reasonable time, 5-15 min).
Germans, while seem to have good work ethics, take it out of their work, keep streets clean, won’t cross the road on red light in the middle of the night and are overly punctual. If you are flying in Europe and your flight is late, the connecting flight won’t wait for you, even if you are just 5 min away and will arrive to the next gate. That’s why german cities are much cleaner than American cities. Yet, with the attitude, I take an American any day than a German.

 

Protected assist yes it can.

 

So, it isn't a German corporation.

 

I visited your country. Believe me, you lack the will of perfection. You compromise.

This thing here is a good example. Its the German Liner AIDAPRIMA



Designed in Germany the Meyer Yard had no slots to build it, So the contract went to Japan. It broke Mitsubishi. The concept intended that the ship has extremly innovative technologie, never tested before. For example it rided on a carpet of tiny bubbles to reduce drag

The design was made from Germany and German engineers made the entire construction process a nightmare for the japanese. Some tech worked in theory but not as planned in reality but the engineers demanded Mitsubishi to get it right. Japanese are very strict themself but this entire project broke Mitsubishi. The german line was not willing to compromise, in the end the japanese pauid over 1 billion in penalties and delivered the ship almost for free and retreated from that market.