Germany nixes US request to join naval mission off Iran

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    German Tech is in evrything you use.

    And iPhone? For losers
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fact that we wear baseball caps in the sun and eat at MacDonald's when we are really, really, really too tired to cook doesn't mean the U.S is supreme over here. We see world peace as the most important thing in our lives and the U.S. is internationally accepted as the biggest threat to world peace since Eva took a bite of that apple. And as far as the American population .... well ... if I told you what we think of them (generally speaking) you'd start crying and turn your pop-gun around and pull the trigger.
     
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    This is actually true.
     
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    German surface fleets tend to not do very good. Probably best they stay close to their home ports.
     
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    Germany has a responsibility to the international community not just to it's own interests.

    There are sanctions on Iran, they should be doing no trade with anyone until they learn to behave.
     
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    The alternative to sanctions is war

    Germany seems to prefer war
     
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    And the US isn't going to attack Iran unless Iran is caught in the act of pirating a foreign ship again. The US does not have enough military vessels to protect the entire Strait which is why it is asking help from countries who get oil via the Strait which many do. The US only gets about 2% of it's oil from the ME. Germany does business with countries that use ME oil so it's to their benefit as well to help protect the Strait. When the nuclear agreement does totally fail the friendship between Germany/EU and the other countries who are still promoting the agreement and Iran will become very strained. Let's see what happens then.
     
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    I think the germans will lead the EU to ally with russia and iran against the US, Israel, and the Saudi’s
     
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    Which will make NATO a total bust.
     
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    Yes

    I think that is inevitable

    The french have always resented America at least since 1945

    and the germans are fully recovered from their defeat in WWII
     
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    Well when Russia rolls tanks into Poland snd is massing on the German border maybe we should do nothing.
     
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    Even though we paid 80% of the costs to keep them in Indochina so they could feel like an empire..
    The French have no grounds to feel anything but gratitude towards America, same goes with the Germans.
     
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    France was a world power from the 1600s till their humiliation in WWII

    now the are a former world power and they cant get over their reduced status
     
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    I hope we will be able to assist the Poles
     
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    The sanctions that exist are American sanctions, including a series of sanctions with extra-territorial focus which basically purport to tell all other nations to ignore a UN resolution which adopted the JCPOA and its provisions lifting international sanctions against Iran and which are intended to force the other signatories of the nuclear agreement to ignore the sovereign commitments they had undertook. The fact that the Europeans had in practice towed the American line and all their companies -- along with all international financial institutions, most of whom had refused to deal with Iran or anyone residing in Iran even before Trump reneged on America's commitments under the JCPOA -- have stopped dealing with Iran was already embarrassing and revealing of European impotence in standing up for their own sovereignty against US hegemonic behavior. But what the Americans and the neocon/Israeli puppet masters want is to add even more insult to injury, by devising schemes for these European powers to help clean up the mess they are about to create and for them to pay for it too! The Germans, at least, appear to have enough pride and self-respect left not to be humiliated to this latter extent.
    https://warontherocks.com/2019/08/w...-pushed-and-pulled-into-americas-iran-policy/
    WHETHER IT LIKES IT OR NOT, EUROPE IS BEING PUSHED AND PULLED INTO AMERICA’S IRAN POLICY
     
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    Sanctions are the alternative to war
     
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    If those are the only alternatives, I prefer war.
     
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    To be honest that does't say much
    They apearently asked Belgium to for ships.
    Doubtful that this will happen since we Got No majority goverment anytime soon but who knows. Maybe we wil send our mighty navy of 2frigates! despite the leftover goverment not having the right to decide that. Got to crawl deep for our us overlords afterall
     
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    Thats infortunate
     
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    I Would say for Girls but need to be careful saying that these Days. (hides)
    Most People buyng them here are Girls though.
     
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    A phone is a phone

    People who have Apple desktops tend to have iPhones for OS compatability
     
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    I agree that was just thecessiest way fir me to say Germany is on it's own
     
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    I think we would help germany too if they wanted help in spite of their ingratitude
     
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    And it would be so easy for Iran to have all the sanctions dropped.
    1. Stop supporting Hezbollah and hamas
    2. Admit that Israel has a right to exist
    3. Stop calling Israel a cancer thst needs to be wiped off the globe
    4. Not pursue nuclear weapons

    Sad what Iran could be but chooses not to be because of their blind hatred.
     
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    We always have before. That's why we are the good guys.
     
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