God just doesn't make sense from a "purpose" standpoint

If a super-physical entity had the intention of creating this universe, why would they also add untold numbers of random comets, asteroids, stars, pulsars, black holes etc. that have no apparent relevance to the survival, prosperity and moral development of our species, which apparently is the main species that this super-physical entity cares about, according to MOST (but not all) theists?

That doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't they just cut to the chase, cut out 99.999999% of the universe, and basically just leave our solar system, without the trillions upon quadrillions upon quintillions of other solar systems, planets, stars etc.? That's retarded.

Has anyone here ever wondered this?

 

Shoosh... you are not supposed to question... it drives some of the religious types crazy.

 

Which probably explains Carl Sagan.And why he didn't live a full life { 62 years }
As he got older he started up with all his Cosmos crap and more & more
discounting the relevance of God and Spirituality.
There's a reason why a lot of simple religious folk live long into their later
years.They trust in the mercy and glory of a Supreme being,a God.
So Sayeth I.

 

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is the most...yeah you look up "Billy Madison (1997) quotes" and see what the rest of that quote says.

 

I'd rather live a short life as a skeptic than a long life as a slave.

 

Do you really believe that religious people live longer lives because one atheist didn't die at a ripe old age?

This is one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever heard.

 

Their may very well be a purpose to all of it. Couldn't really tell you myself. I know aesthetically it's all very beautiful. In the end though I don't bother trying to apply human logic to a god if he exists.

 

Yeah I know all about Youthful cockiness.
But just wait.Some night when yer car stalls out in a really bad part
of town because a ramp exit had been detoured and yer all by yer lonesome.
It's Dark and getting darker and you see a lot of street hoodlums milling around
just itchin' for an excuse.
You just tell me that you won't in the least Pray ta God or ask for help
from somebody,anybody.That is where God comes in.
Do Not Doubt me.

 

I guess it boils down to mindset.I bet you don't believe in Miracles either.
However,knowing it or not You will be exposed to a Miracle sometime in yer
life.It may be at a car wreck scene.Or some tragedy like a Tornado or Hurricane
or Flood.In Catholicism there are what is known as Mysteries of Faith.
Things that cannot be explained.Like how God,a supernatural being can have
Omniscence or be Omnipotent.Or if God knows ALL { God knows what you are going
to do in life,before you're even born } then why would he let evil or bad acts happen.
That is not for mortals to understand.Just like the notion of Infinity { no ending
point }.

 

No. It boils down to facts, and there is no proven correlation between how religious people are and how long they live.

No. Why would I? And, I wouldn't capitalize the word because miracles don't even exist.

That pretty much confirms my suspicions: any unusually-coincidental event is a 'miracle'.

 

Don't even bother. You can't rationalize with a person that believes in the irrational. It's like explaining physics to a cartoon.

 

If Facts are all it takes then why is History a living text book of conflcit
strife,blight and Society literally at each other's throat.
I mean,to hear guys like you ... Facts should take care of all that.
What is a Fact anyway.
Tell us what Facts Carl Sagan drummed up.I know he was one of the first
to dispel the myth that our Cosmos had a lot more than one Universe.In fact
" Billions of Billions " and the relative insignificance of Earth in regards to the
Universe.Sagan's far easier predictions on the effects of the Persian Gulf War's
Kuwaiti oil fires where massive plumes of black smoke burned for days.Sagan's
prediction they would infest the stratosphere causing calamity and disrupt agriculture.
He was wrong.Like Big Time.
A fact is something that is known to exist or has existed.
So tell us all about the countless { literally } Scholars and Statesman,and
Theologians,Philosophers,Writers,Educators,Nobleman,Warriors and the like
who have spoke often dramatically about God.
Would that not by sheer weight of authority attest to some Fact.
That God may well be THE Most used/recited noun in the history of
all writing.Or is that not a Fact.
Gotcha !

 

Yes. Unfortunately, that's a vestige of our superstitious past. Fortunately, as more people turn away from religion, there is less cause to mention the word "god".

 

Those aren't the only choices.

 

To someone who imagines the creator is a "super-physical" entity, I guess you'd be facing a lot of questions.
But for a Christian who humbly acknowledge that he was created for the pleasure of God, everything makes sense.

Why should we think everything out there has to make sense to mere humans like us, if God does not will it?
Is God obligated to explain everything to us? Is He obligated to explain His purpose?

If a human king - or a nation's leader that's elected to power by his own people - does not explain all details of his decision(s) to his subjects,
what more with a God, the CREATOR?

 

Yeah....because we all know "God" will swoop down and save you because you asked it to so nicely.

 

Firstly...stating something "May Well Be", does not allow for the implication it is fact.

However.....something to consider in your pursuit:


This is a selection of the 100 most common nouns in modern American English. It was adapted from the Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA), an extensive body of 450,000,000 words. To see more information about this excellent corpus or other resources from Brigham Young University, head to their COCA website.



1. time
2. year
3. people
4. way
5. day
6. man
7. thing
8. woman
9. life
10. child
11. world
12. school
13. state
14. family
15. student
16. group
17. country
18. problem
19. hand
20. part
21. place
22. case
23. week
24. company
25. system
26. program
27. question
28. work
29. government
30. number
31. night
32. point
33. home
34. water
35. room
36. mother
37. area
38. money
39. story
40. fact
41. month
42. lot
43. right
44. study
45. book
46. eye
47. job
48. word
49. business
50. issue
51. side
52. kind
53. head
54. house
55. service
56. friend
57. father
58. power
59. hour
60. game
61. line
62. end
63. member
64. law
65. car
66. city
67. community
68. name
69. president
70. team
71. minute
72. idea
73. kid
74. body
75. information
76. back
77. parent
78. face
79. others
80. level
81. office
82. door
83. health
84. person
85. art
86. war
87. history
88. party
89. result
90. change
91. morning
92. reason
93. research
94. girl
95. guy
96. moment
97. air
98. teacher
99. force
100. education

I tried to find "God" in the list, but must have missed it......maybe in the Top 500?

 

Why wouldn't he explain his purpose?
Why does it have to be a secret?
Why do people hide behind "god works in mysterious ways" when they have no answer???


And being "made for the pleasure of god" doesn't make any sense...IF there was a god who made us for his PLEASURE he is a sadist.

 

Of course that wouldn't make any sense to you. But it does, to a believer.

We're talking about faith here. It's only logical that someone who doesn't think the Christian God is real would find Christianity senseless.

What I find interesting though is that, why would people who think the Christian God is nothing more than a myth would waste time asking questions?
Not that I'm complaining about it, mind you....that's good. Asking questions.

 

You believe in a whole boatload of myths and you think I'm wasting my time?

And being "made for the pleasure of god" doesn't make sense whether one believes or not...not making sense is not making sense, that can't be changed by "believing".

 

Yeah,...
I wondered how things the church people said could make sense, and realized that they had been trying to make sense for a long time, about the stuff they read in the Bible.
But, what held them up was when they bought into some guy's interpretation or argument as to what the scriptures are saying, they immediately called everyone else who had an interpretation a heretic.

Once they believed some guy had solved the problem, and had answered the question about what the Bible is saying, they killed or excommunicated any further discussion or criticism.
And, the religious people are still doing that.

They think they do God a service because they merely have faith in a Faith (or particular interpretation), instead of faith in Truth.

 

So, what do you think is the meaning and purpose of life? Surely you have an idea.

 

The problem according to the Bible is that a libertarian who is socially liberal in regard to the sexual license given to the people in a society finds fiscal conservatism impossible as the number of young Single Mothers rises to the point where half of all babies born are fatherless bastards who become the criminal element.

The Welfare that pays for teaching young people to be sexually active cost $1 Trillion dollars in 2011.
And, the untold cost to the Courts, the Law Enforcement Agencies, the Prison industry, and the loss of property must be more than welfare.

Fiscal Conservative depends upon using families as the tool for building good citizenship among the next generation, while sexual promiscuity is used to tear down families or never gather people into them.

 

That's Yer opinion and History has already proved you wrong on that score.
Again ... yer merely a dime a dozen Contrarian.Not even rising to the
standard of a garden-variety contrarian.Just a boring,One trick pony contrarian.
You enjoy making a fool of yerself on a message board.
In that there is little mystery of faith involved.

 

Do you have enough I.Q. remaining to even acknowledge all the great
men past,you have just insulted and called irrational.
" Neither in the inconceivable could ye have been born,nor in the irrational. "
-- Thus Spake Zarathustra : a Book for All and None by Nietzsche

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A good deal of History says yer wrong.