God just doesn't make sense from a "purpose" standpoint

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  1. MrConservative

    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    Ok. So where did I imply what atheists are and what atheists are not? You are the one generalizing atheists by saying that they are atheists because they have not been presented with sufficient evidence.
     
  2. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You are claiming that the absence of laws is why atheists can be libertarian.

    You make the false and silly assumption that atheists want to live without laws (laughable) instead of the obvious and easily verifiable position that there is little reason to believe in X if no convincing evidence is presented. The idea of atheists want to live without rules is just a way to make yourself feel good, diminishing their position to that of immorality and destructive tendencies. It is far easier to argue against that silly little strawman than to provide the evidence (being that you make the claim to the affirmative, you carry the burden of proof... which is simply lacking in Christianity) to support your claims.
     
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    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    You can't just claim there is no reason to believe in the existence of God. You yourself have to conduct an honest inquiry into the matter. Not all atheists do this. This is all I was trying to say. I never said that atheists want to live without rules.
     
  4. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Should I simply quote the last few posts you made here?

    I can claim there is little reason to believe in a theistic deity, such a belief is a paradoxial philosophical minefield that you guys never really like to address.
     
  5. MrConservative

    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    Go right ahead. Quote me if you must.

    There is no doubt that everyone has some sort of bias. They can often influence our thought processes.

    You can claim all you want and you may have been honest to yourself, but this wouldn't mean you're right. Your logic may be flawed.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    No one has demonstrated a flaw that would convince me that the chaos in the world is the work of a omnibelevolent deity (a paradox) rather than something as simple as (*)(*)(*)(*) happens.
     
  7. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What th'ell is that supposed to mean {" There are Christian libertarians " }
    I'd say most Libertarians are probably Christians.
    Now what would be troublesome is the number of Catholic Abortionists.
    Like how many Catholic Senators support Abortions.
    Or Catholic pundits { Chris Matthews,Lawrence O'Donnell } who obviously
    sold their souls to the Biggest Abortionist Politican { Obama } in American
    history.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hay ... Religion hater take yer bugaboo a packin' Bub.
    Let me guess. As a kid instead of a pet dog yer Liberal Hippie parents
    bought you a pet rock.
     
  9. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    That is what you think in fact the more people learn especially in science the more they are getting closer to God. The discovery of the God-particle is just one example and anti God people are getting more desperate about such discoveries and learning that they are campaigning aggressively to discredit facts and truth. Th Bible is the strongest evidence and document that have help science expand to where it is now and continuing to expand further.
     
  10. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You aren't very good at addressing points or making coherent arguments are you?
     
  11. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Then atheist do believe there is a God they are just waiting for the evidence that suite their definition.

    Yes God came down as Jesus Christ. Yes God sacrifice Himself not to Himself but to the people and to you not to convince but to reveal.

    Yes to be killed and to resurrect as the ultimate fulfilment of the Scriptures and as a proof that God exist and His omnipotence power is limitless.
    That is why atheist are having a hard time discrediting the Resurrection.
     
  12. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Jesus Christ dude, the "God particle" is short for "*******n particle".

    Why do you use blasphemy as the basis of your argument?

    What are the "anti God" people doing to run from the discovery of the Higgs Boson?

    Be explicit and provide citations.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I tell ya what Bubba.Why don't you just spread yer Anti-religious anything
    somewhere's else.You are boring me.
    Try and focus more on boring those in yer trailer park.
    Or go on - Springer - with yer silly attitudes.You'll fit right in like
    an oily tin of sardines.
     
  14. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    No. This is simply asinine.

    So God Sacrificed Himself to people? Only to respawn with a powerup?

    Right? It is almost as if the conflicting books being written decades after the fact are less than convincing.

    Why would a reasonable person doubt the resurrection as being unique when Hipster Horus was crucified and resurrected before it was cool?

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    You are not very good at addressing posts are you?
     
  15. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    This is what I mean about atheist getting up set so they start saying all kinds of make no sense claims and wild ranting as soon as they hear God!

    I thought you don't believe in God? If you don't believe in God how can I blaspheme. I can only blaspheme if you believe in God and I am blaspheming your God?
    As soon as the hear "God" they went wild and went all effort to have it change to Higgs Boson.

    I just did.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    You mean your claim that there is no God and at the same time there is a God, yes it is a foolish claim indeed just can not make up their mind.

    Yes, God sacrifice Himself to His people wouldn't you do the same for your children?
    God does not need to spawn, spawning is for the devil.
    Nothing is impossible with God.

    There is no conflicting books only One Bible the only existing conflicting books are those authored by anti God individuals.

    All reasonable person have accepted the resurrection only the anti God have refuse to accept it because they are just like Eisenhower said unbelievers or deniers that is why he order all reporters to record and take many photos of the holocaust because he knew that there will be deniers no matter what.
     
  17. Wolverine

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    You are one of the most incredible posters here.

    Scientists call the Higgs Boson the *******n Particle, it is shortened to God Particle because "*******n" cannot be printed in a news paper, and you think it actually has something to do with a mythical deity? And you honestly think that the physicists looking for the Higgs Boson (the phrase Higgs Boson existing before the "God Particle") are scrambling to changes the name of a particle associated with mass because they are terrified they confirmed the existence of God after being the ones to refer to the Higgs Boson as the God Particle? Could you make your argument any more stupid if you tried? Read a book sometime, you might educate yourself.

    So where do you use a phrase that uses the Lord's name in vain as the foundation to your ignorance ridden argument?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Just because I find your religion silly does not mean I am an atheist.
    Save us both the time and refrain from clicking Reply if you are going to address me as a such.

    Why would I need to Sacrifice Myself to Myself to Convince Myself to change the Rules I put into place to begin with?

    Why are there two creation accounts?

    I find your conspiracy theories amusing.

    People disbelieve the existence of God due to lack of evidence. You can strawman all you like to make your weak and pathetic argument look better, but you can't change reality. You just have to accept reality and make an attempt to understand atheism, which is an extraordinarily simple idea. There is not much to the phrase "provide me evidence", especially considering you have to convince people to believe something as silly as Christianity.
     
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    Clear demonstration of distortion and lies "Scientists call the Higgs Boson the God Damn Particle", this is what anti God people do they doctored, manipulate to distort truth. Anything that is God the anti God people will do anything including adding words such as you have done by inserting "damn" to God particle in order to to distort and corrupt the truth.

    Yes, I am one of the most incredible posters here because I post truth and not afraid of anti God people.
     
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    You claim you are not an atheist then you must be an anti God then or anti Christian?

    I can understand that you will never want to sacrifice your self to save your children or love ones that attitude is called selfishness only you count.
    God sacrifice Himself to His people your distortion that He sacrifice for Himself only works for you this is one reason why you have a hard time understanding God.

    There is only one creation account.

    No conspiracy only facts and truth, yours is conspiracy.

    Strawman is what anti God people are using not Christian our argument and presentation are all base on facts, reality and logic. I am not convincing you to believe in God in fact it is you who is working hard to disapprove the existence of God with miserable failure.
     
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    Thats cute.

    So you move the goal posts? Why are you so hooked on the phrase "God particle"? If you were actually educated in the subject (read a book) you might actually understand the phrase has absolutely no relevance or association with any sort of religious argument. Do you even know what the "God particle is"? What properties it has? How it interacts with the universe?
     
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    I am anti-stupidity.

    I would totally sacrifice myself with a respawn and powerup.

    Looks like someone needs to read their bible.
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/accounts.html

    Why would I need to disprove that which has no evidence? You confuse my dismissal with some sort of effort to prove a negative.

    Some more light reading:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
     
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    There are a lot of assumptions about the design whims of a creator. I'm no christian but I can clearly see the beauty of design in the mandlebrot set. It is the ONLY mathematical expression that is REAL and encompasses infinite configurations within a finite set. we humans ourselves are trying feverishly to create worlds with our own ever expanding computer power, once we have a bonafide simulation the argument is over.

    A true creator or simulator could use such seemingly unimportant or wasteful resources to carry out design goals without DIRECTLY influencing events. This would be a favorable form of manipulation as you could produce the desired effects without letting your simulations connect the dots as the chain of events are far outside of their computational powers.
     
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    I am not anti-stupidity, I am open to help the stupid to become leaner.

    To yourself = selfishness.

    Only contradiction is from you, Genesis is very clear God created the world, animals in their own kind that is why humans did not evolve from apes I am sure you will disagree because you believe on the theory that you evolve from apes, then God created the first human to take charge, God also created the universe etc. etc. This is the reason why it take intelligence to understand what is being read not just reading as I said anyone can read but not everyone can understand that is why we have lawyers, judges and teachers to help those who can read but not understand to understand what they are reading.

    Then you should have no problem with God then because all you have been doing is trying very hard to disapprove what you perceive as negative against all factual evidences.
    It is like the Republicans they are known as the party of No, no to everything are you that party of no?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

    Indeed, Russel's argument should be irrelevant then right, but it is not because he and his kind are arguing against truth they try to twist what is inside the tea pot is only for tea when it can also be use for water pot. And this boils down to understanding not just reading.
     

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