"God receipt" waitress fired.

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    Huh? I don't think there was any union involved.
     
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    Your right; there is no union there; my point was if she were union (if it were a union shop), it would have been very tough to terminate her employment; at the least she would have gotten due process. Non-union employees can be fired on the whim of the employer whereas unionized employees as a rule the employer would have to show just cause.
     
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    Violation of work rules is usually clear grounds for termination.
     
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    the "church:30 crowd" #uuugggggg

    I waited tables in college, Sundays were the worst because of this crap. I had a guy say this EXACT same thing to me.... He set me up though.... the bastard....

    "what's a standard tip nowadays, son?"

    "standard is 15%, if it's a party of 8 or more, we usually say 18%"

    "well, tell me, why should I tip a waiter 15-18% when I only give the Lord 10%"


    #really? Did that make you feel good.

    I told him "because the Lord doesn't have tuition and rent due at the end of the month like I do" my brother later suggested I say "if you leave 10%, I'd be impressed"

    but my situation was in 99..... so no facebook or twitter to post about it on.

    But with that alll said, the girl screwed up by posting the reciept online.
     
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    I am a Christian and never wanted to work on Sundays.... but I did see the very judgmental side of Christianity with lunch. A lot of nose snubbing because waiters are sinning when they should be in church on sunday kinda thing.


    I do try to avoid doing the same. My grandfather has probably said the same thing to servers.... but he was a very judgmental prick..... But that's not Christianity, that's just natural personalities showing through under the guise of Christianity
     
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    You should have explained to him the difference between giving 10% of every last dime that you earn and 15% of a bill that is the result of his choosing to stuff his pie hole. Other than the fact that percentages are involved the two are completely unrelated.
     
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    Exactly right. I used to be in the restaurant business and most if not all of the waitresses were Christians but on Sundays they would still grumble about "Church People". The worst time of the year was when COGIC would have their conference in Memphis and for a week solid the place would be packed with "Church People".
     
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    I note the good christian wanted everyone in the resto fired, even the off duty manager... EVERYONE! Nice christian value these bud!
     
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    The person who wrote the note came across an article about it, called the Applebee's location, and demanded everyone be fired -- me, the server who allowed me to take the picture, the manager on duty at the time, the manager not on duty at the time, everyone. It seems I was fired not because Applebee's was represented poorly, not because I did anything illegal or against company policy, but because I embarrassed this person.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/01/fired-applebees-waitress-needs-tips
     
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    no, she was fired for just cause..... I agree with her, but you can't come up with your own arbitrary reasons to post credit card reciepts online. There are a million reasons servers can use to justify posting receipts online..... but that doesn'tmake it right. As a server, you just have to rationalize whether or not what you're about to do is worth losing your job over. It may be., but if it's not.... you better just keep the cellphone camera turned off.
     
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    Correct; if its proven by the employer. With union representation, the company would have the obligation to prove just cause.
     
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    The difficulty of acquiring good customers is dependent on the local market and where your business fits among its demands.

    If you've established yourself in the market, then you probably already have repeat customers. If you're still establishing yourself, then this concern is more relevant.

    Either way, I doubt this story would have much of an effect on your ability to get repeat business if your food is substantially satisfying and affordable as compared to competitors.

    As for wait staff, it really depends on the quality of this employee. The economy may not be in the best of shape, but that doesn't change the ratio of good potential employees vs. bad ones.

    There are a lot of service sector workers that are crappy, so finding a good one is harder than you would think. The hardest part is usually retaining a good employee.

    For example, a lot of college graduates work as waiters or waitresses for their first job out of school. Many of them are superior employees to the ones that don't have a degree. However, because of their education level, they see the job as a temporary one. They'll work hard in the short run, but then they'll leave after finding better work. Turnover can be pretty high in the food service market, which means a lot of time spent training new employees and taking risks in the meantime from inadvertently discovering if they are good workers or not.

    In short, a flooded labor market means more potential employees to hire, but it doesn't mean that all the best ones apply for your business. A lot of times, you have to sift through a lot of crappy applications to find a good employee.
     
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    The employee in this case could not have done a better job of providing the evidence, She broke the rules. She deserved to get fired. Even if there was a union there, it would be pretty tough to argue otherwise.
     
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    That's why I could never work as a waiter...because I might have "accidentally" dumped a pot of hot coffee on him.
     
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    you do what you gotta do to survive. And it was much better than flipping burgers at Wendy's where I was a manager, working twice as many hours, getting half the pay.


    Waiting tables is a high stress job. blamed for everything, including the cooks screwing up the order or not getting the food out on time, to kids crying in the booth 2 over.

    There were great money days, and days that went smooth, and then there was church:30 or, to be as politically correct as possible while saying this, minorities that felt they shouldn't have to tip because they think they are/were oppressed.

    you take the bad with the good.
     
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    My moron tolerance is way too low to be a waiter. I know I have a bad temper, and I would probably strangle someone in the first week.
     
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    Only the totals were printed, not credit card info was put up.

    Firing her was ridiculous, particularly since Applebees ITSELF had posted the SAME receipts online when the receipts had NICE comments on them!

    The waitress could quite reasonably infer the same behavior was acceptable for her.
     
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    I disagree. The waitress gets paid less than minimum, and tips are important to their income. I'm a Christian, and it annoys me to living end that wait people actually dred sundays because of christian who are demanding, poor tippers, and rude. My wife and I tip well because of that so that at least the wait people we encounter know they are appriciated. This "pastor" should be more than embarrassed, she should be utterly ashamed of her actions for not tipping her waitress and doubly so for getting her fired.
     
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    The receipts belong to Applebee's, not the employees. The employee in question violated work rules and was fired for it. Life is unfair.
     
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    At least you're honest about Christians being complete and utter (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s on Sundays when they go to eat our after church. My theory on that was that they either left church feeling like total pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*) because they were harrangued with an hour-long guilt trip by a sanctimonious self-righteous blowhard, OR they left church with some "holier-than-thou" attitude and figured that anyone who didn't bask in their magnificence was deserving of their ire.

    That said, the waitress broke the rules and she got fired for it. That's how things work.
     
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    if only the waitress had a gun she could have defended herself.
     
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    A lead pipe upside the head is more effective.

    I think this just illustrates how awful it is to be dependent on the good graces of supposed Christians for your livelihood.
     
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    Well, I did not say that, but I see how you could put that spin on it. I challenge christianity at many levels, though I am not perfect, far from it. I find the same is true with Christianity's critics as well. Glass houses...throwing stones...and all that jazz.
     
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    And all of the recent Trayvon Martin threads. :lol:
     

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