GOP's Case Against Planned Parenthood Collapses

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  1. Zeffy

    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As if truth-telling worked out so well for his colleague Kevin McCarthy, Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz has just admitted that the GOP’s investigation into Planned Parenthood’s misuse of federal funds turned out to be a dud.

    “Did I look at the finances and have a hearing specifically as to the revenue portion and how they spend? Yes. Was there any wrongdoing? I didn’t find any,” Huffington Post’s Jennifery Bendery reports the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman admitted during yet another hearing on Thursday.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...-collapses-jason-chaffetz-admits-he-uncovered

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    Quelle surprise - not. This *should* stop the witch hunt, but I doubt it will.
     
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    It won't. That's all they know how to do.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    Gee, where are all those who were screaming PP was misusing funds ???


    I thought they'd show up and admit they were so wrong.......(sarcasm alert) :) :)
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't hold your breath waiting.
     
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    Can you hear their teeth grinding? I can.....:clapping:
     
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    they were hoping if they pointed their finger and said PP was a witch, people would burn them at the stake without question....

    good to see common sense prevailed in this case
     
  7. FoxHastings

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    Those poor Anti-Choicers....they run headlong into facts, common sense, science and law and their platform is destroyed :)
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    outta post in Current Events....they'll get the "vapors"....:)
     
  9. Fugazi

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    Let us be honest, was it ever in doubt that nothing would be found. BTW this really needs to be posted in current affairs as well as here.
     
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    No; There was never any need to investigate PP or fraudulently allege the "sting" videos were edited.
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    Nothing illegal was shown in any of these videos. NOTHING!
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    The fact is the "viability rule" is outmoded and has been for over two decades.
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    At least after these unborn human bodies were mutilated and killed, they were used and not simply wasted.
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    The coming replacement for the outmoded "viability rule" will be far more humane and was suggested by the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals and by SCOTUS in their last gestation regulation ruling.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Keep living that delusion.. I just hope you can take the rejection when it comes.
     
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    Regardless of the bs sputed by both sides of this issue the fact that democrats believe an elective abortion at 5 months is legal is immoral. A woman knows she is pregnant after missing a period. I will give her missing two periods. Beyond that, after the embryo was a heart beat a legal abortion should be allowed where carrying the fetus full term threats s the woman's life. Or where the fetus is not viable. Period.
     
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    Oh, but why?!?

    (I think I explained it pretty good in this thread: "the lungs haven't fully developed yet so it's okay to kill" )

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    Surely you mean when the fetus would NEVER be able to survive outside the mother because something is wrong with it?
    Sorry, I think I was maybe just misunderstanding you (I hope). You were just using "viable" in a different sense of the word. When pro-choicers use the phrase "not viable" they usually mean ALL fetuses under 24 weeks.
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    You are welcome to your own morals but they're not everyone's and laws shouldn't be based on individuals morals.

    The fetus is not viable before 24 weeks.
     
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    Beck v Edwards, et al.,(15-4448) Arkansas already filed their petition for certiorari.
    I do not hope you can take the coming results because I do not know you. I do not care how you feel.

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    Many democrats believe elective abortions of gestation at 5-months should remain legal per the 40-year-old Roe. Most humans on earth feel this is immoral. A woman knows she is pregnant after missing a period. Act 301 gives 12-weeks or her missing two periods. Beyond that, after the embryo has a heart beat, a legal abortion of gestation should be allowed ONLY where carrying the fetus full term threatens the woman's life or where the fetus [has a lethal disorder]. Period.

    Act 301 is law and will replace Roe very soon. It is the morality held by enough people to override a veto.

    You are free to ignore the dignity of a human being until the injunction is vacated and Act 301 replaces Roe. You, however, are not allowed to determine when a fetus is viable regardless of how badly you need to. The Court already recognized this is an individual variable.
     
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    You are free to ignore the dignity of women and ignore the rights of women but they will always have them. You, however, are not allowed to determine when a fetus is viable regardless of how badly you need to.

    The Big Court has decided in favor of women's rights......only raging misogynists would want anything different....
     
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    oh pleeeaase !
    When a woman spreads her legs onto the stirrups and has a vacuum hose jammed up her wahzoo, and she intends on having her little child within her torn to pieces because it was all just a mistake, how in the world can anyone see all this as "dignity" ?? Abortion is very undignified. Why do you think the "I had an Abortion" T-shirt movement never caught on?
     
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    What do you think happens during childbirth? How dignified is it? BTW, you never replied to my question as to a man's punishment that would be the equivalent of making a woman wear a scarlet letter A.
     
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    We all know how much PP cares about women...

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    "I went to Planned Parenthood for birth control, but they pushed Abortion"

    The Truth behind Planned Parenthood


    Attending a PP meeting in 2009, Abby Johnson, who eventually turned whistleblower, stated that pre-natal care was being considered for being cut from their offered services because pre-natal clients were was just too "cumbersome." They required to many visits, made to many phone calls and asked far to many questions. You must also remember that PP does not offer the services of an obstetrician for pre-natal visits nor do they deliver full-term actually wanted babies. Visiting their site on pre-natal care, I did not see any promise of actually seeing a real doctor at any point. Let's be honest here. If you have decided to have your baby, you are not the kind of client PP is looking for. There just isn't enough money to made when life is the choice.

    According to reports from pro-life organizations who have actually taken the time to dig through and investigate PP's annual reports, a woman who comes in and receives a years worth of birth control pills is counted as 12 visits but she actually comes in to the building only once. If a woman comes in and has three tests done, that is counted as three visits. They get away with that charade because maybe one test is paid for by Medicaid, another by Title X and one is out of pocket. So, they can count three visits. It's a shell game. So that 2.7 million number is shady at best, extremely bloated and used to perpetuate the lie of "only 3% of our visits are abortions."

    Planned Parenthood uses its other "services" as a smoke screen for its main business of the day – abortion. Abortion is where PP makes its money. It's the gravy train and PP gives awards to those who increase the number of abortions clinics do and according to whistleblowers, has quotas for abortions. They don't have quotas for pap smears or HIV tests. PP doesn't give out awards for the most breast exams tests done. So which is the service PP seems to care about the most? It sure isn't women's health care since abortion has little to do with "women's reproductive health". If they are pregnant, most likely their reproductive organs are working just fine.

    While PP claims abortions are just a small fraction of their services, their actions speak otherwise. In 2010, the Planned Parenthood of South Texas left the PP fold because it was told that they must start doing abortions. Planned Parenthood needed more money and so, it was mandating that more clinics do abortions. Rather than do that, the South Texas clinic decided they would continue to do what they do best which is family planning and contraception under the name of Family Planning of the Coastal Bend.

    Cate Dyer, CEO of StemExpress that collects baby parts for sale, commented on how her people have to throw many of the collected samples out because they were grossly contaminated with staph and other bacterial infections picked up at the PP clinics where the "samples" are harvested. Obviously, hygiene is not a top priority for some of these PP clinics. How many women walk out with an infection they did not have when they went in?
     
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    Any proof to back up this crap? No.
     
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    Amazing the extent of the lies and distortions the Anti-abortion crowd are prepared to vomit.

    (I use the term anti-abortion, because sane humans every are actually is pro life)
     
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    Just because it has been submitted does not mean it will be heard .. hope you are ready for the rejection, and of course you don't care how I feel, you really don't care what anyone else feels as long as you get what you desire.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Act 301 is not law.

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    Yet more bumper sticker propaganda ... just like pretty much everything you cite.
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    I see your point. No one wants there to be a need for abortion but there is .

    I have to stick to the term Anti-Choice since those people are targeting women to end their right to choice...the only "life" they are "pro" is that of the fetus, women don't count as "life" to them. And some Anti-Choicers are FOR abortion in the case of rape and fetal abnormality, they just feel THEY should make the decision, not the woman.
     

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