I'm sorry but you are wrong, there are numerous cases of women who have not known they were pregnant until they have actually given birth .. some women continue to have regular periods during the whole term of pregnancy. There are also women, who due to medical reasons do not have regular period at all .. even to the extent of not having a period for 6 months or more. Tell me how are these women meant to know whether they are pregnant or not in the time scale suggested? - - - Updated - - - Nah, you just spouted BS as usual
Fugazi Sir, The Bill is very much a LAW passed by AR legislators and then vetoed by Governor Mike Beebe. This Bill was then resubmitted to the legislature and the veto by Governor Mike Beebe was over-ridden making this bill become an Act or a LAW. I repeat; MAKING THIS BILL BECOME A LAW! I understand you may not have grown up watching Schoolhouse Rock. How a Bill becomes a LAW. [video=youtube;FFroMQlKiag]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag[/video] This LAW immediately caused a lawsuit in the United States Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas. Honorable Susan Webber Wright agreed the LAW violated the Roe v Wade viability rule but allowed the notification portions to be enforced. The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed this LAW was against the Roe v Wade viability rule and stated the viability rule was in need of being reviewed by the Supreme Court. Act 301 will either be reviewed or the Supreme Court will cease to exist as SCOTUS currently does.
Yes; This is Arkansas law and has no enforcement provisions. A woman who has a doctor help aborting gestation in her 12th week of gestation would have three years after she decides killing the human inside her was a mistake. She can say she would not have done this killing had a doctor not broken the law. This means after her abortion of gestation the doctor who helped would maybe face a jury for damages that would turn him into a pauper till the mother died. The state medical board could easily require a jury of doctors to agree an abortion of gestation was frivolous after 12-weeks and therefore prohibited to require punishment. Juries.....juries...juries. Arkansas allows 11-weeks for abortion as a human right and the ability to measure length of gestation is no h are and fast line. The law, and it is a law, basically does nothing but prohibit aborting gestation to avoid stretch marks after 12-weeks or other ridiculous reasons.
Gee, that sounds simple Why would a "murderer" get three years to decide if it was a mistake? I don't know of any other murder that gave the murder something like that??? If a person hires a hit man to do their killing BOTH face the same penalty. Why an exception when a pregnant woman hires her " hit man" ? The hit man is NOT turned into a pauper until the person who hired him is dead....... Why would the woman tell anyone who the doctor was? HOW would this crime be reported? I mean you dial 911 and SAY WHAT?????? What kind of sick, demented, self righteous POS would make a woman's life harder by what, PEEKING IN HER BEDROOM WINDOW...like the pervert he is to monitor her sex life??? How is it proven that it wasn't a miscarriage? Will every woman who has a miscarriage have to be subject to a PUBLIC exam???? Can you explain how this will stop abortions? NO, you can't.....the entire and only goal is to control and punish women....a mental illness IF you cannot answer the questions above don't bother answering at all.....because if you can't address those questions you have no case....and there is no law...
Arkansas Act 301 :301 - TO MAKE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS TO THE ARKANSAS TEACHER RETIREMENT SYSTEM ACT; TO AMEND THE LAW CONCERNING DE MINIMIS AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND FINANCIAL REPORTS; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. I can't seem to find your bill.........
Can y'all please stop polluting my thread with this Arkansas law bullcrap? The topic is the case against PP collapsing, if you want to talk about something else, start your own thread. Thanks!
There would be no need. No. Yes; This LAW will result in abortion of gestation after 12-weeks becoming MORE RARE. OK; Yes this LAW obviously forces women to take responsibility for having sex. Having sex as a female requires accepting the fact that this act is used naturally for reproduction. If females choose to have sex, these females are made responsible for determining if they become pregnant within 11-weeks or do not. These females may then either abort gestation within 11-weeks or have commit to bringing the human within to term and giving birth(by not aborting gestation within 11-weeks). Simply ladies; - There is no sexual intercourse without responsibility of determining if gestation has begun or has not. Poof. The make-believe right to have casual sex and never worry about pregnancy until well, -never - per Roe, is immoral and no longer allowed.
Sorry.... I may have hijacked this thread. I suppose I believe PP will not exist in ten years and the GOP will not make it that long.
When it is only 1.5% of all abortions - how much more rare do you think it will be? What time frame do you foresee between identification of a maternal complication and the granting of the right to go ahead with a life saving abortion? And where is the MALE responsibility to prevent pregnancy I can tell you a fool proof way of preventing 99% of all abortions for non- medical reasons - make all men become sperm donors before mandatory sterilisation. That way when a woman wants a pregnancy she can choose the male most appropriate and ask him if he will consent to allow her to become impregnated with his sperm. He of course would have to prove first that he has sufficient funds to support a child. No more unwanted pregnancies no more starving children no more welfare babies
And Republican's wonder why they can't win the White House. When the damn GOP decides to follow the advice given to them by their own RNC's internal report which tells them that in order for the GOP to have a shot to win the Oval Office they need to dump the Ultra-Right Wing Religious Conservatives and become more inclusive and spend their time concentrating on the Economy and Jobs instead of getting involved in Flash Point Issues like Abortion, Pray in School...etc...only then with the GOP win the Presidency. AboveAlpha
But even in the Bush era nothing was really done about abortion - yes there was ONE rule that banned a procedure but not the intervention but Bush did not overturn RvW and no GOP government ever will
Well that's just it. There is no chance of overturning Rowe vs. Wade and the vast majority of American's are in favor of allowing Abortion. Such an issue just alienates the majority of American's as American's might abhor the idea of Abortion but at the same time they understand that it cannot be outlawed as there are many instances where not only is an abortion absolutely necessary but it is morally justified. When GOP Presidential Candidates talk about issues like Abortion or Prayer in Schools or anything that might interfere with Constitutional Rights of American's....it just further pushes them away from the American public. The same can be said when Democratic Candidates talk about curtailing the right to bear arms. AboveAlpha
Act 301 is not law, only portions of it are enforcible, and no SCOTUS does not have to review the viability rule and not doing so will not change or cause any changes to the Supreme Court. You seem to be under some delusion that SCOTUS will have to hear this case, nothing could be further from reality.
The Repubs still use abortion and attacking PP to get the votes of the Extreme Misogynists and Mentally ill. Maybe they should realize that making people's lives harder isn't what's best for the country. I feel like Bernie Sanders, "I don't want to hear about the damn emails!"...or , "Shut down the abortion mills and make women criminals!".... ....I want to hear how jobs are going to be created, what they are going to do to preserve the middle class, why SS should be raised automatically every damn year just like food prices, how banksters and Wall Street will be controlled , how life for Americans can improve..... I also would like Repubs to quit talking about how bad Big Government is while they support Big Government if it controls women like animals...(attacking PP )
It P!$$E$ ME OFF to no end that the Republican Party has been hijacked by Ultra-Right Wing Religious Zealots!!! At one time the GOP used to be about creating an environment that was conductive to the growth of Businesses that were small and large thus creating jobs. Years ago the biggest issue with the GOP was their refusal to back environmental laws and refusal to take on Big Tobacco. NOW....instead of the GOP concentrating on creating jobs and growth instead I have to hear Republican Candidates go on about Abortion and Prayer in School and go on and on bashing the Dem's instead of putting together a PLAN that will actually WORK!! THAT is their biggest problem. They spend all their time talking about how bad the Dem's are but they have literally no plan at all for the Nation. And in Trumps case he talks about doing this and that but he has put together absolutely ZERO PLAN that will actually work!!! ANYONE can say I will lower Taxes for the Middle Class and Grow the Economy to make up the shortfall. What we NEED is for someone to DETAIL OUT HOW to do it!!! AboveAlpha
Where do you get 24 weeks? The democrats wouldn't support a law making elective abortions illega st 5 months!
It shouldn't be illegal, a fetus isn't viable until 23 weeks. I applaud Democrats for stopping the Repubs attacks on women's right to their own bodies.....and despise Repubs for pandering to extremist misogynists who have a sick need to control women just to get votes.
Tell me why should they? Who are you trying to stop? Do you know of a case where a late term abortion was done on a whim?
