Greece detects the massive arrival of jihadists

What are you an Albanian with expansionist pretensions? You can't be a Turk, because there are tourists a plenty in Greece. Greece seems to be a favorite, and knowing the Turks, it's a little frightening. They say though a lot come over to be baptized, (shhh! Don't tell Erdogan) - which again doesn't say much for Turkey and the religious freedom there.

 

I should think you already know where I am from. If you doubt my word then it's your problem.

The problem with Turkey is "Johnny come lately" and the effects are only just beginning to be felt. I loved Turkey for many, many years but I doubt if I will ever return what with the domestic situation being what it has become. Still, I cannot abide the Greeks and it just gets worse. I can sit down with a Turk and discuss anything at all, all day long, but a Greek? Forget it! I used to be on the outer fringe of Greek and Greek-Cypriot ex-patriots. All the Greeks do is whine about this, whine about that, whine about everything. They have a one-track mind and it's all about how they dislike everybody. And talk about rude!

 

By the way, the Greeks lived on Cyprus for over 4 thousand years.

Are you saying that the 89% of Greeks on Cyprus were of no consequence, and only the 11% Turks mattered? I guess taking one third of the country, and stealing the homes of the inhabitants and giving them to Turks from the mainland so as to increase the population is fine with you? Would you feel the same if the inhabitants were Muslims, and it was Israel that ethnically cleansed them?

How about a little reality. Cyprus was promised to Greece by Britain during WWI - and they reneged. Again it was promised to Greece during WWII by Winston Churchill and they reneged. Britain makes a habit of splitting up nations for political expediency, so when the ownership of Cyprus was brought up at the UN, they had the Turks on the island protest so they could use it as an excuse to hold on to it.

Later on when Nixon was under impeachment, and Echevit's friend Kissinger was in charge, Turkey invaded killing thousands and ethnically cleansing 1/3 of Cyprus. No nation in the world other than Turkey recognizes the stolen part of Cyprus.

There are over 35 thousand Turkish troops and tanks on Cyprus, ready to ethnically cleanse the island. But the Greeks are not stupid. They knew the British and American bases are no protection, so they turned to the Soviet Union. Now they have Russia, and it's heavily embedded there. Moscow has two red lines, one is the Bosporus, and the other is Cyprus. If the Turks make one move, that's the end of Turkey.

 

Neither of us "know it" because it is false. Cyprus was Greek for a couple thousand years and in the last hundred the Turks intruded. At present it is what it is and I'm not calling for Turks to be expelled. But to pretend Greeks invaded some Turkish homeland is an out right lie. Now let's talk about Constantinople. Was that always a Turkish town?

 

Russian expat invasion of Cyprus also has sinister overtones

Many Russians have made their home on the holiday island, but the Putin regime seems to be reaching deep into the tiny nation

A mysterious Russian cargo ship limped into the Cypriot port of Limassol, this month, forced to seek shelter from a violent storm.

Hidden on board the MS Chariot were four containers packed with 60 tonnes of ammunition for AK-47s and for rocket launchers. The shipment had come from Moscow's state arms company, Rosoboronexport; its shadowy purchaser was none other than the Syrian government.

Cyprus, an EU member since 2004, was supposed to seize the cargo. The weapons flagrantly breached the EU's strict embargo on military supplies to the Syrian regime, which since last year has been violently engaged in shooting and killing its own citizens and anti-regime protesters.

Instead, Cypriot officials allowed the ship to leave after receiving vague assurances it would alter its route. The captain refuelled, left and then set a brisk course for the Syrian port of Tartus, where he delivered his dubious cargo.

Critics say the murky episode is further evidence of Cyprus's unwillingness to displease – and "embarrassing subservience" to – Moscow. The case is reminiscent of when a Cypriot court in 2010 bailed Christopher Metsos – the alleged leader of a bungling Russian spy ring exposed in the US that included the glamorous Anna Chapman. Metsos promptly escaped.

Cyprus's reluctance to offend Vladimir Putin is understandable. The Kremlin has pledged – but not yet handed over – a ¤2.5bn (£2.1bn) loan to bail out Cyprus's economy. Russia has also been a staunch supporter of Cyprus in the UN security council, and an opponent of the unrecognised Ankara-backed Turkish Cypriot "state" in the divided island's north.

So many Russians now live in Limassol, an attractive port with an old city and crusader castle, that the resort has been dubbed "Limassolgrad". There is a Russian-language newspaper, two Russian schools and a radio station. On Sundays Russians flock to Debenhams; the resort's tourist strip features stores selling fur coats, kefir – a sour Russian yoghurt drink, and Baltika, Russia's popular beer.

And then there are Limassol's teeming bars and clubs. There is a seamy eastern dimension, with Ukrainian, Belarussian and Moldovan prostitutes working the beachside drinking spots.

Cyprus's Russian-speaking population is put at 35,000-40,000. It includes many "Pontian" Russians of Greek descent, who grew up in the Soviet Union and migrated here in the 1990s from the Black Sea region.

... ctd https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/26/cyprus-russian-invasion

 

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Funny, ain't it. The both of you failed to realize that until Greece invaded the island it was called "Cyprus" upon which resided "Cypriots". But thanks to Greece's invasion it is now longer Cyrpus at all.

Do either of you have anything to add?

 

What you think about Greeks shouldn't matter, there is such a thing as right and wrong. Anyway the Greeks were very arrogant for a while, and especially rude towards Americans - which is not very smart when you depend on tourism.

They have been cut down quite a bit with their problems, and are going back to their old selves. Believe it or not, there was a time when they were considered the most hospitable people on earth. But I'm going back a long time.

As for being able to talk with Turks, you're right. My grandson took a course in London once and said the Greeks only associate with themselves - something which goes back centuries. When they realized he had high family relations in Greece, and wasn't the son of an American immigrant they tried to include him, but he didn't care, he preferred the Turks.

 

It matters very much to me. I refuse to spend my money in Greece and I shun them on a personal level and I refuse to do any business with them.

They do the same here in ... no .... wait ... where was it you said I live? Albania?

 

Have the Greeks indulged in torturing others? Have they killed millions over millions of people with endless stupid wars? Let's have some respect here! They produced many great characters.

Alchemedes was one of them.
Perhaps they are not hostile but plain fed up with the stupidity of some other people, like the Thingamabob Americans!!

I would like to remind everyone that the Greeks are an integral part of the global family of nations, and we have to thank them for outstanding contributions to the scientific inventions of our time.

 

WHERE??

 

I have news for you, there was never any Greek invasion of Cyprus, so you have been misinformed. The Cypriots wanted to unite with Greece, and were angry with the Turks - who feared they would be kicked off the island the way they were when Crete got its independence, so they joined Britain in obstructing unity with Greece. In retaliation a paramilitary group killed about 150 Turks, and this is what led to the invasion by Turkey.

Nixon at the time was under impeachment, and Kissinger gave Echevit a free hand in invading Cyprus. Thousands were killed, and the rest escaped to the other side of the island. One third of Cyprus was taken, and Turks from the mainland were brought in to occupy their homes. There are over 35 thousand troops and 10 thousand Turkish tanks on the island ready to ethnically cleanse the rest of Cyprus.

 

FIRST OF ALL your response has absolutely NOTHING to do with today's circumstances. It is all history. Like should we accept America's WMD lie, invasion and the million innocent Irakis that the Americans tortured, raped and murdered there just because the U.S. did something good during WW II? Bull crap. Just as much bull crap as ancient Greeks have nothing to do with the situation today. BUT, if you insist on playing silly buggers .... ok.

Absolutely. Yes! Some of the most God-awful torture methods were created and used by the Greeks. Get your head out and read before you make such silly conclusion to the contrary.

Jesus! Your lips are flapping but you are making no sense. Where do you get your ideas from?

 

From deep inside!

 

Lord in Heaven. How pitiful.

 

Are you sure you're not talking about Turkey? If I recall, the Jews were warned not to go there, and my grandson was told by a friend not to speak Greek in Turkey. I read that some elderly Armenian women were being killed in Istanbul.

Unless things have changed recently, Turkey has broken off diplomatic relations with Egypt, Cyprus, Armenia, Serbia and Syria. It's relation with China is nil as well as with Greece, Lebanon and Bulgaria. But that's okay, they have good relations with Qatar.

If a war ever breaks out in Turkey, it will be eaten alive by its neighbors - that's how hated it is.

 

I assume you went to school in Turkey? I heard from some very authoritative sources that they are taught fairy tales, not history.

 

Russia's fake news efforts are tireless. Putin has no shortage of stolen money with which to pay his GRU operatives.

 

Did you rename it? I have always called in Cyprus. Although ancient Greeks called it Kypros.

 

No-no. The southern half is flying a false flag. As a nation, the northern part is called Turkey and I think the southern half may go under the name Greece.

 

I thought you said I am Albanian.

 

False Flag.


It should look something like this:


Northern part of the island.

 

Oooo

Sorry, here you go... from Wikipedia

The Voltaire Network (French: Réseau Voltaire) is a Lebanon-based alternative media outlet with connections in South America and the Middle East that and expounds conspiracy theories, notably relating to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.[1] The organisation was founded in 1994 as a left-wing think tank in support of free speech and secularism in France. It split in 2003 and was disbanded in 2007. It was re-founded as the International Voltaire Network(Réseau Voltaire International) in Lebanon and aimed at propagating conspiracy theories, support of Syrian and Iranian governments. Its current leader is Thierry Meyssan.

The Voltaire Network publishes a free website available in 17 languages (Arabic, English, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Turkish, and others) and two online databases.

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Anything connected with Meyssan has zero credibility. A conspiracy theorist, liar and straight out fantasist of the highest order.

 

Ten thousand tanks you say? For 35,000 troops? How does that work? All Turkey's tanks require 4 man crews, so that is more tanks than people to crew them. Even if you count AFVs as tanks that is still 3 man crews, which leaves no one to fight in the infantry, specops, logistics, artillery & all the other things soldiers do.

One more piece of crappy propaganda. Same tripe, different day.

 

Lol... exposing yourself, so we all know where you dig??