Greece detects the massive arrival of jihadists

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  1. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    I personally find McCain's war legacy from Vietnam being over hyped or exaggerated.
     
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  2. John Sample

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    The Third Reich wasn't "perfect?" It was hell on earth. And not just for Germans.
     
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  3. Jazz

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    Thanks only to the allied bombings!!!
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We shouldn't judge, not having been there ourselves. It can't be fun being captured by the enemy.
    At least these guys had some music...
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+river+quai+youtube&pc=MOZI&ru=/search?q=the+river+quai+youtube&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=A294BB0C6FA877670CEFA294BB0C6FA877670CEF&FORM=WRVORC

    Not so the millions of German POWs on the Rhine Meadows, who were left to die of starvation and exposure. Here is a video, where James Bacque describes how he came upon this crime and researched it for his book.

    Sorry, I lost the link.
    Here is a short version from 2011 of Drucker's speech. He is overcome with emotion as he relates the gruesome treatment his country dealt those help- and hapless German POWs.


    I, too, am an emotional wreck!
     
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  5. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are well and truly way off topic now. Your ignorance and tunnel vision needs some work. It's never good to try debating with someone who knows more than you but you'll learn eventually. If these few words of mine haven't been clear enough then allow me to inform you that you are wrong on each and every one of your assertions (above). You are out of your league on this topic but you'll learn someday.

    False flag

    FLAG: a piece of cloth or similar material, typically oblong or square, attachable by one edge to a pole or rope and used as the symbol or emblem of a country or institution or as a decoration during public festivities.

    FALSE:
    1. not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
    2. made to imitate something in order to deceive.
    It's simple English. :above:
     
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  6. John Sample

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  7. John Sample

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    So who is being deceived? Everyone knows exactly who stands behind the Cypriot flag. Were you fooled? A false flag would be for the Cypriots to attack Turkey while waving a British flag. Yeah, it is simple English. I'm surprised you don't get it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

    Who did Cyprus attack while showing the colors of a different nation?
     
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  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your problem is of a personal nature. I gave you the definitions of both "flag" and the definition of "false" but you refuse to admit you are wrong. OK. Lie to yourself. Who cares? If I told that when I was at university we were a gay bunch of friends I suppose you'd tell me it means we were homosexual. You poor fellow. I know that it's nice to be young and to make things up as you go along and think the vernacular of the day is the "definition" of everything under the sun. When you grow up you will realize that it isn't like that and throwing fits over it :fear: never changes reality. My advice to you: Ears open - Eyes open - Mouth closed.
     
  9. John Sample

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    When you use the combined term "false flag" it acquires a different meaning than the two words do separately. English is hard like that. If you can't speak it properly you should revert to your native tongue. (Notice, "tongue" in this case does not refer to the thing in your mouth used to taste things. And "native" does not refer to indigenous people. Sorry for any confusion there.)

    But I noticed that neither Wikipedia nor your disingenuous attempt to redefine standard English included the notion that if Thingamabob dislikes a flag design chosen by a country, then that makes it a "false flag." In fact you aren't mentioned at all!
     
  10. Thingamabob

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    Now you need to look up the word "separately" which (if you have your eyes and ears open) will show you that false flag are two separate words whereas falseflag is not. I did warn you that you are out on a ledge and outdone by knowledge. I am going to be kind to you only one more time, after that the gloves are off. Here it is ...... so pay attention: Without the full term false flag operation ... you're screwed. I repeat, operation needs to be included if you want to blow your flute and make a point.

    While I am still in a paternal mood, I will also inform you that you need to look up the word "absurd". No, really .... seriously .... look it up and be the one American who knows what this word really means. If you need a good example, try this sentence: "Thingamabob dislikes a flag design chosen by a country".

    But if I know you (and I think that I do) you haven't taken a single word I've written to heart.
     
  11. dixon76710

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    And if there was ever any doubt it was cleared up when it was reported that he called on Lois Lerner to bankrupt the tea party with audits to stop them. He was mad that the Supreme Court had over ruled his signature legislation the McCain Feingold act as unconstitutional so he wanted to try and achieve the same ends through BS IRS audits intended to bankrupt the organizations.
     
  12. John Sample

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    You need to get busy correcting everyone else's use of English. Or just continue to ignore standard usage:

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    False flag
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    This US Douglas A-26 C Invader was painted in fake Cuban Air Force colors for the military invasion of Cuba undertaken by the CIA-sponsored paramilitary group Brigade 2506 in April 1961.
    A false flag is a covert operation designed to deceive; the deception creates the appearance of a particular party, group, or nation being responsible for some activity, disguising the actual source of responsibility.

    The term "false flag" originally referred to pirate ships that flew flags of countries as a disguise to prevent their victims from fleeing or preparing for battle. Sometimes the flag would remain and the blame for the attack be laid incorrectly on another country. The term today extends beyond naval encounters to include countries that organize attacks on themselves and make the attacks appear to be by enemy nations or terrorists, thus giving the nation that was supposedly attacked a pretext for domestic repression and foreign military aggression.[1]

    Operations carried out during peacetime by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, can (by extension) also be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation."

    Note that the term is "false flag" and not "falseflag." A false flag is an operation, not a national flag you object to. It is a shame that you can't get past your personally made up definitions and just use the same definitions that everyone else uses.
     
  13. BestViewedWithCable

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    I hope the Amazons kick the crap outta em.
     
  14. notme

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    source it
     
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    It lacks total credibility that a freaking NATO member ...a NATO member is a spreader of muslim terror... without Trump mentioning it.
     
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    It's a free country. It can buy weapons where it wants. Doesn't prove crap about them helping jihadists.
     
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    Apparently you don't see the irony in Turkey buying Russian weapons. Maybe you don't know NATO's intended purpose when it was created?
     
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    I fail to see that buying weapons from Russia has anything to do with helping out jihadists.
    There is not even some guilty by association thing going on. lol
     
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    Uhhh, I have news for you. When ISIS took control of Syria's oil wells, they were selling the stolen oil to Erdogan's son Bilal, and he gave them arms in return. That ended when Russia entered the war. When they asked Washington why they weren't bombing the thousands of trucks and oil tanks so as to stop their money supply, Kerry said they didn't want to harm innocent people. Yeah right, that's why Washington bombed Mosul and Raqqa to the stone age later on.

    As for Al Nusra, today Turkey has renamed them Jabhat Fatah al-Sham thinking that will make them more palatable - but the stripes are the same. Once a terrorist, always a terrorist.



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    BOMBS AWAY!

     
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    This is an example of Turkish deception, since ISIS attacks were never towards the Turkish people. They were always towards the Kurds in Turkey. As an example, when ISIS attacked some Kurd students the question became how were they able to enter Turkey unless they had help?

    Also when ISIS attacked a parade for peace, it was the section with the Kurds that was attacked. Erdogan's intent was to start a war with the Kurds for political expediency at the time, but what he didn't expect was that the Kurds were well prepared for them and quite a few Turkish military and police have died in the recent past. I think the war in Turkey is still going on.

    Before Erogan took control of the press, I liked to read Hurriyet and would pick up things here and there. As an example, the Turkish jet that flew into Syrian airspace had a faulty navigation system and the pilots it was given to were Kurds. The intent I guess was to bring Nato into the war by having it shot down. The case was brought to court by the pilot's parents. Two years later over 100 pilots quit - I assume they were Kurds.

    As for ISIS and Al Nusra, Turkey not only trained and supported them, but was sending them in through Turkey so they could fight the Kurds. The first chemical attack in Syria occurred when Al Nusra was losing a battle to the Syrians. The Turkish guards had stopped the truck at the border with the chemicals, not knowing they were being shipped in by Fidan head of Turkish Intelligence. Gulen's newspaper Zaman picked up on it, and Erdogan's opposition made a big issue of it at the Parliament.

    In the meantime Turkish and Saudi troops were waiting at the border for Obama to attack Damascus so they could march in.
    But look, it's not just Turkey. Israel was using Al Nusra to guard the Golan Heights from Hezbollah.

     
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    Jazz said:
    Thanks only to the allied bombings!!!
    Thank you, I'm very well.
    Reading your recommended book won't be necessary. Just tell me in a few words what YOU think I need to know.
     
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    "Erdoğan said organizations like DAESH, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, and al-Shabaab, which are killing people in the name of Islam, have “nothing to do with Islam” and should be fought against in unity. “What kind of shape are we in as Muslims? Both the killers and those being killed are chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ [God is great]. Our youngsters are being deceived by these fringe organizations. We have to stop this,” he said."


    Erdogan has gone on record as condemning radical Islamic groups.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/op...is-erdogan-upset-with-the-islamic-world-98529
     
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    I do not understand your response. Are you actually saying that a NATO member (oh, let's just use the U.S. as an example) wouldn't be responsible for the spread of Muslim terrorism? Or are you saying "yes" it might be possible but not without being mentioned and called out for what it is? I realize there is a "main point" you are reaching for but if the basis of your argument isn't solid then you'll never reach your goal.

    The U.S. itself is responsible for spreading Muslim terror, by the way, so maybe your post was sarcasm that I didn't see?
     
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    Maybe you can enlighten us? This should be interesting.
     
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    NATO was created for the sole purpose of keeping Germany down!
     

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