http://concealednation.org/2017/02/...g-out-the-hard-way-that-criminals-still-kill/ I am glad we don't have to rely on the government to provide us protection. Gun rights and gun sales will continue to grow as everyday citizens realize that the government can't be everywhere to protect them. Countries where they don't allow or trust their citizens to defend themselves will see an increasing amount of violence against their citizens. So Sad.
And yet, in spite of undesputable facts, the Anti-Gun advocates still insist on promoting unfounded tripe and pure lies.
Most anti-gunners are not living in reality. Doesn't really matter though, here in the good old US our rights are expanding state by state because the proof is in the pudding.
I live in France, and I trust our police and our militaries. If every islamic terrorist could have get a gun, we would be already in civil war. However, the European Union don't make the job easy. A lot of ex sovietic eras have a lot of guns and sell them to drugdealers in France. Because their is no border controle, some guns can easily go to France. One terrorist however didn't succeed to get guns or a truck and attacked militaries with some machete, he was the only victime of his craziness. Our homicide rate is more than twice smaller than the U.S one and I think that we are a big failure. From memory, we are at 1,7 and USA at 4,4. Some countries like Norway or Japan succeed to get a 0,4 homicide rate per 100 000 inhabitant. Our Police do regulary a wonderfull job. For each bombing occure, how many they prevent ? Probably dozens of them. Often the buying of guns is the moment they can arrest them and sentence them.
I wish somebody would do a study on the location of mass murder in relation to "gun free zones". I suspect that most are in gun free zones and those zones are very rare in relation to places where guns are allowed in states where concealed carry is allowed. Criminals prefer disarmed victims. I avoid those places as much as possible.
It highly depend of what you call a gun free zone. The first thing that influence the homicid rate is the richness and other influences (like being on the road of drug traffic/war for all central america states). However most countries with gun restrictive laws have lower murder rate than equivalent rich countries. The two "real" states (I mean, I wouldn't count micro states like Monaco or Vatican, no offense to Monaco people) who have the lowest murder rate are Norway and Japan with around 4 murders for 1 million people. Some "poor" countries like Algeria have surprisingly really low murder rate with only 0,9.
Brazil has a gun ban for the common citizen yet has a higher murder rate than the US. Same with Mexico.
That's why I precised that the most important criterion is still the richness. For Mexico and central america states, their government is way too corrupt and the real leaders of those countries are the cartels. Those states are almost in civil war. The cartels are in my top three of the worst bastards of the last decades with ISIS. - - - Updated - - - That's why I precised that the most important criterion is still the richness. For Mexico and central america states, their government is way too corrupt and the real leaders of those countries are the cartels. Those states are almost in civil war. The cartels are in my top three of the worst bastards of the last decades with ISIS.
By the way gun free zones is stupid if you except just people to look at a sign and say "okay, I wouldn't go in it". In western europe, we have 3 to 4 much less homicides than in USA, despite the bombing. The best is still to prevent the terrorist or the criminals to get the guns. Look at countries like France or Unite Kingdom, we have a lot of criminals, we have a lot of ghettos, of drugs. Why have we much less homicides ? You just have to go check the statistics of the OEDC, they aren't a bunch of leftists. If you want to have real gun free zones, you have to do much better than writting "that's bad if you bring a gun here, m'kay". You need borders, you need borders controle, and you need to find a way to get back the guns. Even if the USA decided today to ban all guns, it would be stupid to ban directly all guns, you will need dozens of years to do it. Furthermore murders are not only commited by criminals, their are commited by usual people who loose their mind. Deeply, I don't care of the USA debate of gun controle vs anti controle, that's only an american problem and logically none of my business. However, I can tell that even if it's not magic, gun controle effectively lower the homicide rate in most (rich) countries.
Here are some examples of gun free zones that make sense airplanes court rooms presidential speeches major sporting events like the super bowl Tell me you disagree with those gun free zones
You can take a look at the GDP per inhabitant rate. As far as I know, UK and France have a lower GDP per inhabitant than USA.
Wouldn't median GDP be a better measure. Average GDP is very much skewed by a few high earners. In the U.S. for example, the mean Income per household is $72K per household. The median income per person is $55k per household. That's a big difference.
The US is a big country. We could also look at geographic pockets of high crime rates and the economic status of the inhabitants of those areas.
I respect your opinion. The USA was founded on distrust for the government. While having the government in charge of your safety may give a feeling of security, it may prove to be a false sense security as more Muslims extremists pour in. I hope the problem does not get worse, but what if it does? How can we protect the good people when the enemy lives among them? Can we even send help without feeding the enemy?
The government has every right to secure their Constitutionally appointed roles. They can protect their courts, military bases, borders, federal police agencies, and law making chambers. Private property rights trump the 2A rights of the public. If somebody wants to be a gun free safe zone for criminals, that's their right. I will not be there if at all possible.
Over 98% according to this source..... http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...gs-occurred-on-gun-free-zones-research-shows/
Government has Authority and Power to enact Legislation and Regulations, Citizens have Rights, Government has no Rights.
Don't worry, we can't trust our governement either, no matters what's parti is in charge, they are often corrupted. You can't trust your governement, but Ithink you can trust the people in army. Your police, from a stranger point of view, seems to lack of discipline and order. During the french revolution, the army sided with the people, it didn't prevented a civil war between republican and royalist. USA are a big country, we can't compare the situation between Europe and USA easily, you have tons of square kilometers of deep wilderness with bears, wolves or communities deeply isolated. You can never copy paste a model, and it's not because Norway or Japan got a much lower murder rate that having the same laws will result with the same results. I don't say gun controle is an obvious reason, but I think it's already a shame for my country to have a 1,7 rate of homicide. Both USA and France can do much better to lower the homicide rate. Life is the most sacred thing on earth, as much as freedom. That's, I think, a duty for every human to protect life. That's why too, I think healthcare it's important, I can understand their can't be no healthcare for adults even if it's shock me, I have much more difficulties for children. We can speak about freedom, but dead people aren't free.
Good post, and I agree it is best to limit criminals access to weapons. How we achieve that is the crux of the matter. Beyond that and most Important to me is that I have no desire to have to stand by and watch helplessly as someone close to me is murdered by someone who will not follow the law. The fact that the government, military, nor police can be everywhere makes it vitally important to me to have the ability to defend myself and my family. I also whole heartily believe that gun control only affects the law abiding.
You can own a gun for self defense AND we can have effective gun control. They are not mutually exclusive
