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Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by 6Gunner, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I understand completely, and your continuous gun grabbing attempts are all infringements...
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great a personal attack from a member who's tagline is actually totally false.
     
  3. danielpalos

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    Our Second Amendment is express not implied by any right wing fantasy.
     
  4. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Surveys are hardly a scientific way of measuring anything, as there is no way of verifying the answers that are given.
     
  5. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    If overall levels of violence remain unchanged, then firearm-related restrictions amount to absolutely nothing except for a false sense of security.
     
  6. Xenamnes

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    When the united state supreme court was hearing oral arguments for the Heller ruling, the district of columbia claimed their trigger lock requirement was constitutional because anyone could disable a trigger lock in a time of need in as little as three seconds.

    According to the united state supreme court, even a mere three second delay amounts to an unconstitutional infringement on the right of self defense.
     
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  7. danielpalos

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    Our Second Amendment is express as to what is necessary to the security of our free States.

    There should be no security problems in the federal districts.
     
  8. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Then explain why there are such problems to be found within the united states.
     
  9. flogger

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    Prove you are 80 times more likely to be stabbed here then .....go on I dare you ?
     
  10. flogger

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    The UK is vastly less violent than the US . Your Cops are over 200 times more likely to be killed in the line of duty and your murder rate per capita is 5 times ours
     
  11. flogger

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    Well as long as its someone elses loved ones paying the price indeed why should you care ?

    As long as the guns are safe thats all that matters ..... right ? :roll:
     
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  12. danielpalos

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    slack legislators? they are responsible for organizing the militia for the security of our free States.
     
  13. 6Gunner

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    I've made sure my loved ones understand their responsibilities and are prepared to protect themselves, and I'm prepared to protect them.

    If other people's loved ones choose to be sheep ripe to be harvested that's their problem. I won't force my lifestyle on others... and I won't accept them forcing theirs on me.
     
  14. TOG 6

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    There were 5,053 finished consultant episodes (FCE) recorded in English hospitals in 2017/18 due to assault by a sharp object. This was an increase of 14% compared to 2016/17 and 39% higher than in 2014/15.
     
  15. SiNNiK

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    20% of the crimes committed, not of the lawfully owned firearms.

    You did, and here's where you did it.


    Yuge difference.
     
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  16. Xenamnes

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    Such was the case even before firearms ownership was restricted in the united kingdom. It did not go from a violent region to a peaceful region through the implementation of firearm-related restrictions. Therefore nothing of significance or substance actually changed or was achieved.
     
  17. Xenamnes

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    The united states is overcrowded as it is. The nation could stand to experience a significant measure of depopulation. The best was to achieve such is to not interfere and let the matter address and resolve itself.
     
  18. danielpalos

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    the entire US population can fit in the State of Texas.

    new cities in more optimum locations!

    we have a general welfare clause not a general badfare clause.
     
  19. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I see watch you mean..........if you totally ignore context.
     
  20. Jimmy79

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    That's simply not true though.
     
  21. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    You like surveys eh? https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhs...-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/#2c2ddb69299a


    In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:

    Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
     
  22. TOG 6

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    Even virulently anti-gun organizations such a the VPC believe guns are used in self-defense almost 100k times per year.
     
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    The idea that you can keep weapons out of the hands of criminals by turning otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals is nuts.

    You can't even keep knives and drugs out of the hands of people in prison. How does one do it in the rest of society?
     
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    As we all know, keeping guns out of the hands of criminals is the excuse, not the objective, of gun control.
     
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    Hell they can't even keep GUNS out of the hands of prisoners in the UK.

    Let that sink in a minute. Guns are illegal in the UK. Prisons have CAVITY SEARCH level security. Cameras, guards, lockdowns etc.
    They still get guns into the prison. https://aoav.org.uk/2016/almost-60-guns-smuggled-hm-prisons-decade-justice-figures-reveal/
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/guns-smuggled-prisons-union-leaders-9491259
     
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