Gun Restrictions

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Active Member

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    There is not a real way of creating laws to restrict gun violence, but there is a way to restrict the types and amount of guns by putting restrictions on gun manufactures.
     
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    You can make a gun on a 3D printer. So, no.
     
  3. Hermit

    Hermit Active Member

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    Yes, a plausible fact... where can one get a printable 3D version of an AK - 47? ...anyone can make a zip-gun from a hardware store that would be much cheaper a venture... but high-capacity?
     
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    Even the "end runs" that some decerebrate liberals come up with are still citizen restrictions on firearm ownership.

    SCOTUS has already said so.

    Suck it up and get over it.

    Move on...
     
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    Eventually.

    To add, AR-15s are totally modular and the components are readily available. A tyrannical government might be able to get away with saying "you can't manufacture a gun." But there's no way they can get away with saying "you can't manufacture a rolled CMO2 tube with a 5.56mm spindled cutout."

    Then there's the whole illegal gun business in the Phillippines. 90% of them are really really good and make their way to the US to be purchased by people who aren't allowed to purchase guns. Good people who want guns will generally comply with the law regardless of how restrictive it becomes. Bad people who want guns don't give a squirt of cold (*)(*)(*)(*) about the law and they will have guns no matter what.
     
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    Making a high capacity mag is pretty easy with a 3D printer.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That'll work! Yes the Paris attackers used AK rifles made in Com-Bloc nations, got them illegally in Yugoslavia, got past the porous border into France, then used to commit terror. The unarmed French used your stupid ideas on gun control, and paid the price.

    All the dumb gun laws in California didn't stop Seyd and Tashfeen from getting guns.

    And all the retarded gun control laws in Mexico has not stopped the nation from being a Narco State. In fact, there is only one gun store in Mexico, and it is ran by the police.
     
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    Just like you can put restrictions on doctors who perform abortions.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We'll list your solution between the War On Drugs and the War on Poverty and just after Prohibition or maybe after The Efficacy of Gun Free Zones. Good idea. I'm sure it'll work.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I forgot to mention Midnight Basketball.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    350 million guns in the US alone so manufacturing laws will do nothing. Anyone motivated enough to commit a terror act will be able to find what they need.
     
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    100 million new guns since Obama has been in office threatening restrictions for law abiding citizens. Best gun salesman evah! Think they will ever get smart and shut their pie holes?
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    Check out the last four words of this:

    The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Restrictions infringe.
     
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    May wish to read the Second Amendment.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Mill, lathe, broach and you can build a gun.
    So until they outlaw the private sale of some steel. Forget it.
     
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    forget 3D printed guns now, even I was on that bandwagon saying they are deadly and awful... until my friend showed me something else... think paintball gun, but with ball bearings, fired faster than a bullet... with a hopper capable of holding thousands... and a 5 gallon compressor hooked up to a generator... now mount it in the back of a pickup truck... it'll look like common construction equipment... until that person opens up on a crowd of people ripping through flesh and bodies... my friend accepted my challenge to scare me, and succeeded... these are off the shelf parts you can get today for under a thousand dollars and mow down crowds of people outside a venue...

    I should learned to stop challenging my friend to scaring me... after two girls one cup, I should know he can't be beat with scaring me...
     
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    I agree. There should be restrictions on the types and amount of guns that a gun manufacturer can produce.
     
  18. Hermit

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    So, anyone should be allowed to own a fully loaded tank, a fully armed military jet, ...a nuclear weapon? If it is just carrying a label of a gun, rather than it is a hunting rifle or a military style assault rifle... there should be no difference?

    Personal protection is one thing... having a personal inventory to promote the sale of illegal weapons is quite another... one thing is surely clear... practically every mass shooting proclaimed that weapon from another's private stock of weapons.
     
  19. Hoosier8

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    What would you restrict when it is perfectly legal to make your own gun at home from raw materials?
     
  20. Hermit

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    The amount of mass produced high velocity, high capacity guns.
     
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    So most all popular rifles and handguns.
     
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    10 year olds are making AK-47s from scratch in small shops in the tribal areas of Pakistan, and other parts of the world - and unlike the AKs purchased in the US, these are real "assault rifles" - full auto.

    Making guns is not rocket science. Which doe not mean that these small shops cannot make rocket launchers. Be very glad that DIY weapons are not, so far as I know, being manufactured in the US.
     
  23. Hermit

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    How many do manufacturers need to make? ...how many go unaccounted for? ...how is it that manufactures can make a product in such production that they themselves have no effective way of tracking the hands into which their product falls into? This is simply immoral corporate practices. It's one thing to supply a populace with effective personal defense, it is entirely different to flood the streets...(the world) with products designed to maim or kill in mass. They are not toys to collect and give away like baseball cards...
     
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    Do alcohol producers track who buys their products?

    BTW: If taking something off the shelves will stop people from getting them, the just take meth off the shelves, oh wait.
     
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    How is it we can track car titles and MSO's (manufactures statement of origin) more effectively than we can track guns?

    It sure does make it harder.
     

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