Gun Restrictions

...and yet, it doesn't have to be this way...

...but again, you are just portraying the average gun owner as being too irresponsible as to warrant the ownership of this property... if it is legally made, it warrants this legitimization straight from the gun manufacturer.

 

There is no rational basis for holding S&W liable for criminal acts by the end-users of its product, when said product reaches the market legally.
You may not like that fact, but a fact it remains.

 

You're right, I can't argue third hand liability with the manufacturer... but the first hand of morality and social responsibility of their product lies squarely in their hands... and from the looks of it... they have made a crap job of it all. If they can't be responsible enough to curtail the output of their products to levels that can be better traced, tracked and accounted for, then they need to be restricted, for our own good.

 

And thus, your desire to see them held liable for crimes so committed with their product circles, then falls down, the drain.
Glad we got that settled.

 

Oh, you mean like ObaMao and illegals.

 

?... Held liable for the social responsibility of their product... ...wrongful death suits... much like the families of Newton.

Oct 5 2015 - "U.S. District Judge Robert Chatigny in Hartford, Connecticut, returned the case to state court on Sept. 30 — a decision called an important victory by the families’ lawyers. Federal courts have consistently refused to hold gun manufacturers liable or permit lawsuits against gun manufacturers for injuries caused by third parties."

...not settled...

 

Funny, and speaking of overweight people, shouldn't we track and regulate silver and plastic ware? Those are really the cause of obesity and they're made for only one purpose.

 

Snicker...
Why do you think a judge refusing to hear a case on manufacturer liability supports your position, a position you admit you have no rational basis for?

 

No one is out there force feeding a large group of people to death with silver and plastic ware... but while we're talking about bad analogies...

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Why does it have a better chance at succeeding in the lower courts...

...snicker...

 

We regulate car drivers and they are the leading cause of death in America only behind heart disease.

We already have 350 million guns in circulation. How naïve are you?

 

You did not answer my question.

 

Is that enough? ...or do you think we need more? Do more guns solve a gun problem?

...very...

 

stupid comparison. Defective guns can result in a winning lawsuit. Gun retailers who violate the brady bill can be prosecuted or lose their license. Gun bans have nothing to do with crime control. They are all about class and politics control

There should be a moratorium on passing any more gun laws until those who propose them can prove

1) such laws will objectively and significantly decrease violent crime

2) that such laws are narrowly constructed so as to not interfere with the rights of law abiding citizens

and those who pass the laws should be subject to heavy civil damages if they deprive any honest citizen of being able to own or obtain any type of firearm

 

Them emigrate to a country that has gun laws to your liking.

 

sure-it depends on the problem
having one of my many guns when I was mugged solved a very real problem

it also resulted in jail time for the two muggers and one almost died.

 

There's a gun problem? I got no problem with guns. I do, however, have a HUGE problem with violent people being allowed to run rampant through our liberal, revolving-door justice system, and back out onto the streets to commit more violence. Wanna solve a problem that will make a difference, solve THAT one. My gun and I pose no threat to you or anyone else. My gun and I DO pose a threat to violent criminals, though. Who's side are you on anyway?

 

Who said anything about more guns?

That went way over your head little guy.

The point is that restricting guns now does nothing. Especially for the criminals that already have them. The black market for guns would skyrocket which would make tracking terrorists even harder. They'd just buy a piece from a homie on the block with no evidence.

 

Quite honestly... until it is settled in court... I don't need too...

But answer me this... are gun manufactures not morally and socially responsible for the products they sell?

 

Imo your view is that it is your right to have what guns you desire regardless of necessity that justifies that right

That may be true, but
That is separate from his question

Will having more guns solve, or mitigate any problem?

 

Heh.
You admit you have no rational basis for holding S&W liable.
Why do you think a jury will?

 

Back on the street to commit more violent crimes with an illegal gun, from some third hand legal source...

I don't know who side I am on... I think my own...

 

More guns = less violent crime.... demonstrably.

 

Quite possibly.

"...But answer me this... are gun manufactures not morally and socially responsible for the products they sell?..."

 

Seriously? That's your response? Welcome to the ignore file, troll.

 

Tell ya what, go get yourself robbed two times, once unarmed & the other with a CCW on your person. Then come back & tell us which worked out better.