Gun Show Loophole exposed <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

Did all such buyers of handguns actually pass background checks? The study looked at the period 1996-2005. In 2005 the homicide rate in Connecticut was 3.0; in the next ten years, the homicide rate was equal or higher than the 2005 rate 8 out of 10 years. There's a reason the the researchers stopped at 2005. In the same 1996 to 2005 period, Florida's homicide rate fell 33% without any new gun control laws. In the same period, Louisiana's homicide rate fell 43%.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/

 

There is no loophole.

Nearly all sellers at gun shows are FFLs who are required to have their buyers pass background checks. There is no way to monitor sales in private venues, and no way to enforce a UBC. UBCs don't stop criminals from getting guns from other criminals.

 

This is correct - there is no legal way to get past the background checks mandated by federal law.
They lie, and they know it.

 

With no evidence, absolutely no evidence whatsoever, which would prove conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that the two incidents are directly connected with one another. It is nothing more than the causation/correlation substitution fallacy being employed to suggest one lead to the other. But it cannot be proven.

 

There is no supposed "loophole" to be had, as the law in question was intended only to apply to those who were engaged in the business of legally selling firearms as a business, not private individuals liquidating their own privately owned property.

 

if the anti-gun left did not have access to post hoc and other fallacies, they'd have little to post

 

This is correct - there is no legal way to get past the background checks mandated by federal law.
They lie, and they know it.

 

The laws at a gun show are identical to those outside of a gun show. There is no difference. If I buy from a gun dealer at a gun show, the same rules apply as if I bought it from his store. If I buy from a private individual the same rules apply as if I had bought it out in a parking lot or from his house. The so-called gunshow loophole is actually the regulations for private sales. A gun dealer is required to do a background check (NICS) whether at a gun show or not. A private seller is not required to do a background check whether at a gun show or not. I know I have written this before in a post to you. Are you that dense that you can't process that information. There is no gunshow loophole. The laws don't differ between a gun show and outside of the gun show. Your example above is totally absurd, and you should have known it, but intellectually you are not honest enough to do so.

 

Because if you tell a lie often enough it appears to be the truth. Frustrates me, too, especially when I have written almost the exact same thing in other discussions to the same posters about the mythical gun show loophole. They are just intellectually dishonest, and refuse to acknowledge the truth.

 

Because it uses a myth to place concrete infringements upon a right for no legitimate reason.

 

I think saving lives is a pretty good reason

 

Which gun control doesn't do. More and more studies are demonstrating that gun control has - at best - a negligible effect either way on death rates; be they accidental, criminal, or suicidal.

Either way, honest and law abiding citizens do NOT deserve to have their rights infringed when they have committed no crime.

 

dude, you guys even oppose background checks to make sure gun buyers aren't wanted escaped felons

 

Actually that is not true. I refer you to Harvard University School of Public Injury which has dozens of studies that support gun control. Now this is not research by some hack paid for by special interests. This is Harvard University, arguably the finest research university in the country if not the world.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/

 

Harvard employs propagandists. Heminway is a well known one. You never are able to tell us what specific gun control law has been proven to save lives. The type of gun control you support saves lives of violent felons only.

 

Well you see I posted evidence from one of the most respected universities in the country. That site has research from dozens of people.

But then we do have your opinion. LOL

 

its still propaganda. Besides-having gone to Yale, I don't worship Harvard.

 

Well Harvard is not a church so there is no need to worship it. But to deny that it is one of the most respected research universities in the world.....well that is just silly. Even for a Yalie. LOL

 

It is in some areas-its anti gun propaganda is one of its deficiencies

 

More opinion....yes yes....thank you for your opinion. LOL

 

Why does the anti-gun left continue to lie about a gun show loophole?

 

You misspelled pro gun right

 

"Dude" in this country we are innocent until proven guilty, and people have DIED waiting for their background checks to be processed. The law should target the actions of those who actually commit offenses against their fellow citizens; it should NEVER be used to infringe upon the rights of those who have done nothing wrong.

 

Harvard does not impress me; especially since they have already proven willing to push propaganda to push a political agenda.

 

Don't engage the paid troll. Look at his responses, they are utterly childish. Its a waste of time. Give him the silent treatment.