Hamas fires rockets at Israel

Not my understanding of Oslo. Arafat said that if he signed it his life would be in danger.
Soon after the bombing started again.
Yes, Netanyahu is something of a bad egg, as I see him. He needs the support of the
Israeli Arabs in this last election, as I understand it.

 

sorry, the Arabs started the 1948 War.

 

Sorry. The Jews refused to acknowledge the right of self determination of the Arabs. That started the war. It did not "just happen". While ethnically cleansing anybody isn't justified and is a war crime. And the Jew made that war crime massive by ethnically cleansing 100.000's of civilians, by threatening to commit genocide. I sourced that they did in Haifa. And they did elsewhere for real.

 

It does. The Jews just trashed that agrement, and instead started to ethnically cleanse some more to expand their Jew state. It's what the Jewish population in Israel wants. They voted for it. They join the IDF for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords#Transitional_Period
1. The five-year transitional period will begin upon the withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and Jericho area.

 

the Jews agreed to UN Resolution 181, which split Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state.

had the Arabs accepted this, they would have a lot more land today.

but the Arabs said no, attacked the Jews, and the Jews kicked their asses.

 

I sourced that it is in post 734. Apperantly the Jews can not help to obey their religious text and ethnically cleanse and thieve properties for the sake to have all of what they see as Israel as what they think their God has given to them.

 

FALSE.

it says no such thing.

all it says is:

The Transitional Period is commonly known as the interim period (Oslo I, Article V) or interim phase.[13] Hence the name "Interim Agreement" for the Oslo II Accord and the term "Interim Self-Government Authority" (Oslo I, Article I). The interim period was designed to bridge the period between the establishment of the Palestinian Interim Self-Government Authority and the Palestinian Legislative Council, and the end of the permanent status negotiations, "leading to a permanent settlement based on Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338" (Oslo I, Article I). The permanent settlement was not defined. The interim period ended on 4 May 1999,[13] five years after the signing of the Gaza–Jericho Agreement.

Article V of the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements (DOP or Oslo I) reads:

Transitional Period and Permanent Status Negotiations

1. The five-year transitional period will begin upon the withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and Jericho area.

2. Permanent status negotiations will commence as soon as possible, but not later than the beginning of the third year of the interim period, between the Government of Israel and the Palestinian people's representatives.

3. It is understood that these negotiations shall cover remaining issues, including: Jerusalem, refugees, settlements, security arrangements, borders, relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and other issues of common interest.

4. The two parties agree that the outcome of the permanent status negotiations should not be prejudiced or preempted by agreements reached for the interim period


Oslo Accords says NOTHING about Israel giving back all of the West Bank.

you simply made that up

 

LOL!!!!

here you go again, derailing the thread by attacking Judaism.

soo pathetic.

i however will not go into the gutter with you and attack Islam, as this topic is about modern-day politics, not religious faith.

 

So much for your claim Egypt started a war. You just dropped that completely when confronted that the Jew started the war over Suez, never signed a peace treaty. As for that resolution: the plan was never implemented and it trashed the Arab right of self determination, and that was done by the Jews and the West. They started it. A judge of the ICJ has declared that "The Court has also held that the right of self-determination as an established and recognized right under international law applies to the territory and to the Palestinian people."

And the ill will of the Jews shows to rape the rights of Arabs. It's not just the right of self determination. The Jews also massively ethnically cleansed them lands. They still at it. Hence that Jew state, the only state with a Jew majority, is the most condemned nation on the planet.

 

Egypt started the Six Day War when they kicked out the peacekeepers and blocked the Straits of Tiran for Israeli traffic.

they wanted to provoke Israel and they got their wish, and Israel kicked their asses in 6 days.

 

um....meanwhile there are ZERO international sanctions on Israel and they get millions of tourists every year.

 

You say it's false, and than use my source to prove you're wrong. lol

 

The motive of it all is the Jew faith. That's perfectly well within the bounds of the subject.

 

if Oslo already agreed that Israel would give back ALL of the West Bank, why did they need to negotiate final borders and Jerusalem after the 5 year period?

LOL!!!!

come on bro, give it up. Logic is not on the side of your argument.

They agreed to negotiate final borders and jerusalem, they never agreed to anything before that.

oh...and btw: "The two parties agree that the outcome of the permanent status negotiations should not be prejudiced or preempted by agreements reached for the interim period"

 

this topic is not about Judaism or Islam.

i wont go into the gutter with your flamebait derail.

you own that one.

 

There was no peace treaty with Israel, and so the war started when the Jews attacked Egypt to thieve all of the Sinai. And the Jews refused to host any UN forces, so it's just insane to whine that Egypt had to have peace keepers.... when it was the Jews who started the war invading Egypt.

 

It's only because the US keeps vetoing it.... while sending massive amounts of Jews to help out and ethnically cleanse Arabs in the WB. Lots of war criminal civilians in the WB are American. Are you derailing the thread again with this remark?

 

I sourced that I am right that the Israeli soldiers had to go in 5 years. And so did you. Period. lol

The motives of criminals are always on topic of the crime. I have yet to see you argue against this.
And you dragged in Islam... derailing the thread.

 

if they already agreed on the borders of the State of Palestine in the Oslo Accords, there would be no need for any further negotiations.

right buddy?

 

I never dragged in Islam.

you attacked Judaism and I responded by pointing that that Judaism and Islam are in full agreement regarding most of the stories in the Old Testament.

meanwhile you continue to attempt to flamebait by attacking Judaism, but I wont get into the gutter with you. sorry.

 

You said you did not drag in Islam, and than immediately admit you did.... while not responding to the fact that motives of a crime is staying on topic. The Jew faith motivates them to commit those crimes. You're just here to mute those facts for your own agenda.

 

What is right, is what you sourced and what I sourced.

 

okay buddy where exactly does the Oslo accords specifically say that after 5 years Israel must leave the entire West Bank?

 

Um, no. That's not correct. Not even close.
Israel re-empted Egypt by striking their air bases and taking out the bombers and fighters
that by this time should have been hitting Israel. Egypt had been asked to delay the attack
and this worked in Israel's favor.
In fact LOTS was in Israel's favor, including zero wind, anti-aircraft stood down due to a
tour of the 19 bases by the air Marshall, Egypt's failure to change codes on the day and
their failure to get Jordan's warning about Israeli planes, the defection of an Iraqi pilot with
the latest Soviet MIG and so on, so on. A miracle, really. Here were people digging mass
graves all over Israel, expecting to be annihilated.

 

I find it absolutely fascinating that @notme thinks isreal signed a treaty in 1994 stating they must leave the entire West Bank after 5 years.

Lolol!!! Too funny