He answered the door in underwear. Topeka police broke in with guns drawn, he says

I initially reacted the same way as many, upset over what was happening. However, based on what is reported to be in the call, then the police response was correct.

 

.......in a violent dispute with a female and was making threats to her.

 

Yet not a single cop at the scene mentioned anything about that.

 

Then why are people making this a second amendment issue? Did they violate his 4th amendment rights or did they have probable cause? Maybe its just a reason to blow the race whistle. He did admit to being a felon and falsely claimed that he had a right to own an AK47 as long as it wasn't automatic.

 

Sigh...watch the video in the link.

The police specify the reason they kicked in this guy’s door is because they received a call that a Hispanic male was in his own home with a rifle.

You do realize not every state restricts felons’ 2nd Amendment Rights and in some states the restrictions that do exist have time limits, right?

 

If the guy was just washing his dog, the caller that reported the "violent dispute" would be the villain here. The cops should investigate if anyone else heard this violent dispute. If not the callers should be the next door the cops knock on.

 

You haven't heard the 9/11 call. It sounds like it was the report of a crime on a woman, which they were sent to investigate. The term "hispanic" is simply a description not a racial slur, had the report been of a "white" person, they would have been searching for a white person, or an "asian" and so forth. Your incredible leap that they are claiming it's a "crime" for a hispanic to be in a home with a gun" is race-baiting nonsense.

The Left loves to stir up racial hate and division a majority of the electorate is tired of it. You think you can direct that hate against your political opponents, but how has that been working out for you for going on a decade?

It was always a scummy tactic, all the way back when Charles Mason was trying to provoke a race war. But worse, it's stopped working for nearly a decade. And you folks seem to think it if you just do it louder and more shrillfully that its suddenly going to start working again.

It's dead, over, you fool no one, all you do is inflame folks already firmly in your own pocket. Is that the point, to inflame the base? The Pussyhats aren't doing it? This is little different than Ashley Judd endlessly droning on about her menstrual blood. Except when you guys stir up the crazies against law enforcement some of them have been assassinated.

Why do you think stirring up racial strife benefits you?

Do you want Police to stop responding to reports of crimes being committed on females by hispanics?

Do you want hispanics to be able to slam the door in the responding officers faces and the officers to shrug and leave after they have been called to investigate a crime on a female in a house?

After the officers heard that a crime was being committed on a female at this house, and this guy answers the door in his underwear and is wearing latex gloves, what the hell do you think went through these officers minds?

 

The police would have (and have) acted precisely the same regardless of race. I don't necessarily agree that 'in his underwear with gloves' necessitates forced entry without a warrant... but the cops do this to everyone when a snowflake reports a firearm involved. The perpetually terrified left has whipped the nations LE into such a frenzy over guns that all manner of constitutional violations become 'justified' when a gun is reportedly involved... even concerning minorities. You can't tell everyone that gun owners are dangerous and then bitch when ethnic minority gun owners are treated as dangerous. That, as they say, does not compute.

 

Why didn’t any of the responding officers bring up anything about a crime being committed on a woman in the house?

 

So what? Cops are notoriously tight lipped as not to jeopardize the investigation. Either the "caller" said it or didn't on the 911 recording. Did it occur to you that they want the neighbors to tell what they know freely without fear of violence?

 

I did watch the video. Wanting this to be a race issue doesn't make it one. This is a 4th amendment issue and there is not enough information here to draw a conclusion.

 

That's not precisely accurate (and I'm NOT calling you a liar). But assuming there is nothing factual to the report of a female in danger, the cops would still have to respond to any complaint that a person in an apartment was "suspiciously" doing something with an AR-15, or the like. The guy answers the door wearing undies and latex gloves, and then shuts the door in the cops' faces.

The cops are still coming in. Legally.

Now if they find a baggie of pot or a stash of coke and no rifle .... I'm thinking he should prevail on suppression of evidence. But it the cops have any reasonable suspicion to think life or injury is at issue .... they're coming in.

 

So agents of the government both lied to a citizen who had committed no crimes and threatened him with deadly force?

 

Then he slams the door in their face, he could have been preparing to dispose of a body.

 

I’m going to start calling the person on everyone I see who might have a firearm on them, whether they are in public or in their own homes. I can argue that I found it “suspicious” and who cares if it results in an accident or two and the government kills some people who weren’t doing anything illegal?

 

Ive got news for ya. I am white, and I wrote an identical OP. Cept I didn't slam the door, I said, I cant stop you physically, so do as you are going to do. They freaked.

But, the cop said, in addition, he sat outside my window, and listened to the woman I threw iunto walls cry, for FIFTEEN
MINUTES. I was alone.

They lie, and make up stories about exigent circumstances supposedly called in.

 

People are making it a 2nd amendment issue because when it was originally reported, that was the cogent point made. Hispanic male with gun in his own house. Bits like responding to call about domestic dispute were not in initial reports.

The racist aspect comes from people saying that the same caller would not have called in had he been white.

 

You should maybe do that, and see how many times cops go to investigate your complaints.

 

Did you even read the article you linked to? Or did you pull this off one of your radical left wing websites and simply use the link so you could post it the Current News panel.

Here, from the article YOU linked to, which you show no familiarity with:

“The caller told us they believed the male to be in a violent dispute with a female and was making threats to her,” police said. “The caller then specified the apartment this was taking place in. The caller then said they could hear banging on their door and walls and said they were afraid for their safety.”​

And when he answered the door wearing latex gloves and in his underwear, and slammed the door in their faces, they broke it down and searched because in the pit of their stomachs I bet they feared that they were going to find a dead female, on plastic, in the process of being disposed of.

Moreover, this is plainly obvious. So why are you waist deep in race-baiting and slandering these police officers. What if it was your mother, sister, or daughter that someone thought a crime was being committed on? With the facts they had, what EXACTLY are you faulting the police officers for, imperfect wording during a very tense moment?

You owe them an apology. I demand a complete and total retraction from you, and that you put a "I support Law Enforcement Officers" bumper sticker on your Prius for two weeks.

 

Absolutely agree, this is a 4th amendment issue. Americans have been pissing this one away for decades.

 

Well Questerr is hypothesizing that the cops made up the female in danger part of the story to justify breaking into the apt. And theoretically that might be true, but it's also just as possible the cops responded to "Hispanic man with rifle" and someone in the apt complex told them the guy argued with his girl. But whatever.

The cops knock on your door for a valid reason, and you open it wearing tidywhites and latex gloves, and shut the door in their faces ... it's not ending well. LOL

 

I guarantee you THAT is exactly what they feared. They secured him with cuffs, searched the apartment, explained to him why, and then when, thank goodness, they found out no crime had occurred, they arranged for the door to be repaired and left, and left him uninjured.

 

Did you bother watching the video? Not a single one of the responding cops say a thing about a woman potentially being in danger. That excuse was invented after the video came out.

 

You got the right amendment. But the tidywhites and latex gloves are still there. LOL

 

What do you make of the fact that he shows zero familiarity with the article he linked to?