Hello from Syrian Girl

The invasion of Iraq was actually a continuation of the petro-dollar project, where we topple any and all governments that threaten to trade their oil in anything other than USD.

 

And you are a typical ethoncentric Westerner who considers any aberration (regardless of time and place) from modern Western values to be immoral. In other words, you- like most average people- view other cultures and their values (again regardless of time) in an extremely simple manner. This is one reason why you have such a poor understanding of Islam.

Thus, you are yet another American who furthers the stereotype of the uneducated, simplistic American. It's not fair for the Western intellectuals, you know.

 

People create religions for a lot of pretty pathetic reasons. Sometimes it's for personal gain (L Ron Hubbard, David Koresh, and Joseph Smith come quickly to mind), others to force their personal morals on large groups of people (God made these rules and told me to tell you), and yet others to explain the inexplicable in times before the scientific method existed (God did it).

Now to be clear - this woman Margot is not saying it's OK or not OK, she is saying that Moe never married a 6 year old girl and never consumated that marriage when the little girl was 8. So we aren't talking about how you are trying to justify it by saying "oh, that still happens in lots of places", we are talking about someone saying "that never happened".

 

Your link says she was six at marriage and he started boning her when she was nine. That is disgusting. If that is how your god rolls, you people are sick. What the heck is the matter with you people and this sick cult? Who marries a six year old or has sex with a nine year old, other than muslims and some catholic priests? If anyone came near my daughter before she was done with high school, they would have been living in a shallow grave I dug with my Deere. Man you people are beyond messed up.

Age of Aisha at time of marriage with Holy Prophet Muhammad

It is believed on the authority of some Hadith reports that the marriage ceremony (known as nikah, amounting to betrothal) of Aisha with the Holy Prophet Muhammad took place when she was six years of age, and that she joined the Holy Prophet as his wife three years later at the age of nine. We quote below from two such reports in Bukhari.

“It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.”

“Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed [alone] for two years or so. He married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.” [3]

 

They (Kuwait) stole tens of billions of Iraq's oil. We know this because after they got caught they offered to pay back $9 billion in cash. From there things obviously really went south and Saddam ended up invading their country. Now if Canada rolled into USA and stole their coal I am not sure we wouldn't have responded with military action either. I'm not saying Saddam was right or wrong - seems to me it could go either way. Guy was a definite freak-show sadist that was into murdering people by the hundreds of thousands; but it also seems Kuwait was messing with the wrong guy and got their a$$es handed to them for being stupid in a no-stupidity zone.

 

USA citizens may be flying in drugs in old DC-3's or the floor of a beat up old Penske truck; but Uncle Sam is not bringing in drugs illegally. You think one department like the DEA would allow some other department like CIA to do wholesale drug smuggling? Ten people can keep a secret. Ten thousand people cannot.

With regard to Imperialism. We aren't Imperialists. Peurto Rico and the Virgin Islands don't want to disconnect from USA. Philippines did and we were more than happy to help them set up their government after WW II. We don't own Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country we helped free from despots. If we were Imperialists like GB was hundreds of years ago; we would have kept those lands and raped them of all it's gold and natural resources.

The only wages below minimum wage in USA are if people sneak in from Mexico. And we don't want them to do that - they do it illegally. It just would cost too much to build a Great Wall (like China has) across the entire Mexico-USA border; or we probably would have already done so. So there is no slave labor going on in USA. Now I do however agree with you that we should not let USA corporations buy stuff that was made by slave labor. I don't think we have laws precluding our companies from doing that, and that is an absolute shame.

To your point about the will of the people versus the will of Washington: I think we are in agreement. There are two problems that I see there - one is that we only have two viable parties and they do a damn good job making sure a third or fourth party can't come to the dance. They control the media and don't let the Libertarian Party or Whig Party show up at those debates, don't give them equal billing in the AP and Reuters news feeds, etc. That's one half of the conundrum. The other is that these mega corporations and unions fund these Super PAC's and then those PAC's give gazillions of dollars to their buddies in the two main parties in return for getting favorable legislation passed, etc. Washington is owned and operated by these sleazy dirtballs.

 

Have you ever had sexual intercourse with a nine year old girl like your prophet did? Have you ever had a daughter that you offered to let your friends have sex with at age nine? Would you now have sex with a nine year old girl if you thought nobody would find out and kill you?

 

link please.

 

One of the tribe, right?

 

[MENTION=62434]Snappo[/MENTION].

Since you are apparently in NYC, have ya even known anyone to have a fundraiser for a child rapist, except for sick Jews?


[video=youtube;krRPXpRT5po]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=krRPXpRT5po[/video]

 

From one perspective and in that alternative, the federal government is the largest purchaser of drugs in the world; as moral and civil example for Persons in our republic.

 

This can't possibly be the first time you heard that Iraq complained to OPEC about them stealing oil by cross-drilling and that even when OPEC demanded that Kuwait cut production, that Kuwait didn't. Kuwait also offered to give Iraq a ton of cash, but less than Iraq thought they stole.

http://eg.china-embassy.org/eng/rdwt/ylkwt/ylkjs/t76665.htm
i) Oil Policy
Iraq accused Kuwait of overproducing oil together with the United Arab Emirates. As a result oil price fell and Iraq suffered a loss of 14 billion US dollars.
ii) Territorial Disputes
Along the 120-kilometer land boundary between Iraq and Kuwait there was a section of desert area rich in oil still undemarcated. Iraq accused Kuwait of illegally extracting oil worth 2.4 billion Us dollars in the southern part of the Rumaylah oil field which belongs to Iraq. But Kuwait claimed it was part of Kuwait's territory as the southern part of the oil field extends into Kuwait's boundaries.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_213.shtml
The third reason was alleged Kuwaiti oil drilling in the Rumaylah oilfield, which lay in disputed border territory, and the fourth was Kuwaiti overproduction of oil. Gulf revenues were depressed as a result of an oil glut on the spot market in the late 1980s, forcing Iraq to threaten with the use of force as retribution for Kuwaiti overproduction and underpricing.


http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-7600.html
Iraq's first financial disagreement with Kuwait related to oil policy. Iraq objected to Kuwait's production beyond OPEC quotas and the consequent contribution that overproduction made to lowering oil prices internationally. Iraq also claimed Kuwait was siphoning oil from the shared Ar Rumaylah oil field straddling the Iraq-Kuwait border. During the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq ceased production from its side of the field while Kuwait continued operations. Kuwait asserted it had taken oil only from its own side of the field; Iraq claimed it had poached.

 

So to you stealing oil is that Kuwait produced more than Iraq wanted and they drilled oil in Kuwait.

Ridiculous.

 

You don't read very well, do you? It's not rocket science. Kuwait cross-drilled into Iraq and stole oil from their oil fields. Iraq complained to OPEC. OPEC told Kuwait to slow production and follow proper pricing and not to cross drill into the Iraqi Rumaylah field; none of which Kuwait did. They kept drilling, selling more than OPEC said they could, and charging less than OPEC said they should. When Iraq amassed troops and decided enough was enough; Kuwait offered to pay back billion of what they stole. Perhaps Iraq was just looking for an excuse to start a war; but when Kuwait offered to pay only 90% or so of what Iraq wanted in repayment; Saddam let the tanks roll on in.

Your statement that about Kuwait not stealing is beyond idiotic; as is your assertion that Kuwait did this in their own country. Kuwait was stealing but they screwed with an obviously extremely violent war-monger and it all turned bad for them.

 

On a related not, Kuwait still does this crap. I wouldn't be surprised to see Iraq go to war with Kuwait again some year in the future.

http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2010/03/28/outrage-in-basra-as-kuwait-drills-cross-border-deposits/

Outrage in Basra as Kuwait drills cross-border deposits

A Kuwaiti project to drill an oil deposit shared with Iraq has sparked outrage in Iraq’s southern oil province of Basra, where the Iraqi side of the shared cross-border deposit is located.

Local politicians in Basra said Kuwaiti work on the Ratqa field, an extension of Iraq’s supergiant Rumaila field, could tap into Iraq’s reserves. Kuwait denies it is anything but routine work.

Iraq has not signed bilateral agreements on protocol for developing the fields crossing or near the border with its neighbors, which has prompted diplomatic controversies with neighbors, including Iran in December.

The head of Basra’s provincial council, Jabar Ameen al-Latif, alleged that drilling was taking place around 180 meters from the Iraqi border.

“We call for the federal government to close the borders issue,” Latif said, “to avoid many border problems which appear from time to time between Iraq and neighboring countries, especially Iran and Kuwait.”

He said the Basra province government had sent a delegation to Kuwait calling for diplomatic resolution to these problems instead of unilateral drilling.

Basra oil expert Abdul Jabar al-Haifi said countries that share joint deposits have the right to drill wells inside its own borders because Iraq has not signed any agreements on managing any shared fields.

“It is like the situation between Iraq and Turkey about water,” he said. “There is no obligation on Turkey about the amount of water it gives to Iraq,” referring to the ongoing debate between Iraq and its upstream neighbor on distribution of water resources.

However, there are concerns that because Kuwait has better equipment than Iraq, it will be better able to exploit the joint deposit.

Kuwait’s ambassador in Iraq, Ali al-Mumim, however denied that any new projects had begun. He said that routine maintenance work was being carried out on the Ratqa field.

“This oil field is a developed and a producing field. The work on this field has been ongoing for a long time,” he said.

He went on to say that the wells being maintained were more than 180 meters from the border. He also said that there had been meetings of Iraqi and Kuwaiti committees to discuss cross-border oil wells, and that a proposal had been made for each side to drill only 250 meters or more from the border.

“But, so far, the Iraqi side has not responded to this,” he said.

The Oil Ministry declined to comment on the issue when contacted by the Iraq Oil Report. The issue of oil fields on or near the border is a thorny one. After the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, borders including areas with oil fields were never clearly redrawn. A dispute over the Fauqi (aka Fakka) field on the border in December 2009 became stand-off involving mobilization of Iranian and Iraqi soldiers.

The Kuwait border dispute will have loud resonance in Iraq. In 1990, Iraqi accusations that Kuwait was using slant drilling to tap Iraqi oil were part of the build-up to the surprise Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in August of that year.

 

Why, of corse.

 

So what? Mexico cross drills all of the time everyday. Should we invade Mexico and kill all the government workers and loot the banks? besides that what do you think OPEC is a world government? Ridiculous.

 

Can you cite any sources or should we just take your word for it?

 

That kind of corruption in the CIA and the DEA is no secret. For the CIA, it ranks a little on the low-side of what they've generally done.

Well, you are right, I should have just said aggression since we have just finished invading the Middle East twice. But, we have taken territory for our own and built bases in those territories where we keep standing troops and still hire a supporting force of mercenaries to man.

We still do extract wealth and resources from many of these places- it's just through economic means now. Like Africa, Euro/American businesses have basically been siphoning wealth for decades. In South America, the same. And these are only two areas where we are clear on because of the broad focus on it placed by independent humanitarians. Some nations have tried to move towards independence- politically and economically- but that is generally seen as a threat by the US and when sanctions and political pressure doesn't work, and subtle maneuvers like CIA don't persuade, they send in the military. This still doesn't include the enormous pressure put on many nations- not just third world- by the IMF and the World Bank. They are two pimps if ever there were any.

"Virtual" slave labor. As in "something like slave labor". Under-priced and under some pretty bad conditions, no less, with little to no benefits and a heap of extortion on top of that. You can say you don't like, agree, or support that, but it's a prime example of America's ideological duality. They are what make things like Walmart cheap. Since that results in a good deal, while we may express grumbles, many people still shop at Walmart. And will continue to.

More parties would make even less sense. The basic lesson is that no party, no matter what cause they flag, truly prioritizes their own lower-caste base. They may give them lip service and beat the drums every now and then, but there's little they actually do for their own base. Even the things they do pass, under scrutiny, can be seen to be cleverly encoded legislation that just bends them and everyone else over. Democrats and Republicans take turns hacking at the paradise we call democracy but we still have cheerleaders saying it's all the other guys fault. If only we can get rid of them, a return to normalcy, a return to the good old days...that never were...will happen.

But even if parties actually championed the opinions of there base, then more parties would still be bad. Right now you have two ideological choices for about 3 - 400 million people. Upsurd. If everyone had a party that expressed their direct interests, there would be probably a hundred, at least. The differences in thoughts, needs, environments, and the like f a people spread out across a massive country a just...too...numerous. If you split into more parties, than if one party wins, that accounts for even less representation than before, because now an even smaller group makes the decisions for the rest of all those people in all those other groups who didn't win. Truth is, representation of people in government is a myth. Especially in modern US. Now, they don't represent you, you represent them. We don't dictate the issues, they dictate the issues, and we advocate for them in forums and such. We aren't even aware of the issues until they are revealed to us.

 

Anyway.

Welcome along to PF.

 

I have never had to throw someone into the bozo bin for admitting having sex with a pre-teen child; but congratulations on being the first. Bye bye, freak show.

 

I never had to throw someone in a bozo bin for being stupid before. I always figured if someone didn't understand something, you could point them to an online encyclopedia or give them some information and they could move on with their own education. But it takes a certain kind of fundamental brain damage to not understand anything beyond "I like pie". Grats on learning what red and green are for so you haven't become a sidewalk statistic; but I just can't carry you through this any further. I could care less if you ever figure out what government agreements are on boundaries, what OPEC is and does, or anything else for that matter. Bye bye window licker. You will have to pick a new trolling target.

 

See when a normal man and normal woman love each other.....

 

Get lost. We don't need any of you people around here.

 

They have 52 Arab and Muslim countries... All are sh!tty... That's one reason why they are occupying the west.