I'm reading that there's going to be a press conference soon. Anyone heard of anything? Or maybe CERN is gonna announce that they've destroyed the world!
that it's a maybe, that evidence appears to be leading to the long sought particle that makes mass possible. How about keep something in mind: Them particle accelerators have done nothing for mankind except isolate isotopes and employ people. There has technology developed because of the acheivements in building the accelerators but the math, evidence..etc from the accelerators themselves, is and always has been 'worthless'.
More like the evidence is inconclusive. Really, it was an incredibly weak statement. "There may be evidence for the higgs. There may not be evidence for the higgs. Stay tuned until next year." This is like someone at CERN's idea of a joke--call for an "important" press conference only to say that we won't know until next year.
I would think the engineering expertise needed to build the collider itself will help in the construction of other large structures that utilize powerful and precisely arranged magnets.
They have it backed into a smaller corner than it used to be, is the way I understand it. They are slowly eliminating bits of what it isn't. " ...The Higgs will probably never be observed directly, but scientists at the LHC hope that a Higgs will momentarily exist in this soup of particles. If it behaves as researchers think it will, it should decay further into yet more particles, leaving a trail that could prove its existence. It is not the first machine to hunt for the particle. The LEP machine, which ran at Cern from 1989-2000, ruled out the Higgs up to a certain mass, and the US Tevatron accelerator searched for the particle above this range before it was switched off this year. These data are still being analysed, and could yet be important in helping confirm or rule out the particle. The LHC, as the most powerful particle accelerator ever built, is just the most high-profile of the experiments that could shed light on the Higgs hunt... " http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16116236
Takes a while to analyze all of that data. I'll be surprised if they haven't found something notable. If the Higgs isn't found soon, then its mass will be too large to explain is connection to fermionic mass and the entire Higgs mechanism will have to be dropped. So the Higgs is right around the corner... or our understanding of the universe is about to be flipped on its ear. I bet they've found it.
As noted before, the problem may not concern the Higg's mass, but the extremely narrow focus of this mass.
possum found it once, Granny made him give it back to Mr. Higgs... New measurement brings Higgs boson closer March 2 (UPI) -- Scientists at a U.S. particle physics lab say they've made the world's most precise measurement of one of nature's elementary particles.
Personally I dont think Higgs exists. Something seems to be flawed at the fundamental level of our understanding regarding physics, which is understandable [sic]. I am certainly no theoretical physicists, nevertheless with calculations becoming ever more complicated to explain simple events and our failure to unify the theory of the very small and the theory of macro events, ie quantum theory with Einsteins theories, the never ending search for GUT's and then hopefully TOE's. Also String theory which is the darling of those LP scientists everywhere is somewhat to very dependent on the Higgs being found. If there was a infallible no Higgs doesn't exist that would mean our physics of the last 50 years was heading in the wrong, one might say piltdown direction If Higgs does not exist, well that would be curtains for the silly string theory, and I say good riddance! Maybe with string theory out of the way we can begin complementing Metaphysical other than LP explanations or a blend there of for a truer picture of reality. reva
Granny hopes dey give it back to God... APNewsBreak: Evidence of 'God particle' found 2 July`12 Scientists working at the world's biggest atom smasher plan to announce Wednesday that they have gathered enough evidence to show that the long-sought "God particle" answering fundamental questions about the universe almost certainly does exist.
Quite possible, to get any significant chance of forming the hypothetical particle they would have to use energy levels within a narrow window close to the correct resonance energy. Unfortunately, they are not exactly sure what this resonance might be. When you consider that they may have to run each possible energy level for several days to get enough "events", it can be realised that it may take a long time. Of course, they could always spend another few billion euros to speed up the process.
'Almost certainly' does not mean the elusive Higgs has been found. Personally for the sanity of scientists and science in general I hope it is found. Personally and even theologically I hope Higgs is found. Why? Because if higgs is verified it lends evidence for the newer philosophy promoted by Dr (William) Craig, Dr Koon and other progressive creation (not to be confused with YO creation) that the KCA (a form of cosmological argument) is still valid. Just as the standard big bang model reinforced the newer theological philosophy of 'God did It' * the Higgs boson will buttress current ontological/cosmological models. * (and its a model that atheist theoretical physicists such as S. Hawking are desperately and successfully attempting to change in both title and concept). reva
DAM [sic] this jerky slow server! I am freaking fed up with it. Truly fed up! I tried to update my post, ie edit it for this, of course the screwy middle school time limit expired as I tried to transition to the edit page. Until this forum is fixed (and its far from fixed) I truly wish the time limit for edits would be extended or dropped!!!! Twitch ****jerk ***... ***cof*** Anyway UPDATE! ; New particle fits description of elusive Higgs boson, scientists say ... www.cnn.com/2012/07/04/tech/physics-higgs-particle/index.html updated 9:26 AM EDT, Wed July 4, 2012 |. STORY HIGHLIGHTS. Finding the Higgs boson would help explain the origin of mass; "We have reached a milestone in our understanding of nature," .... updated 5:47 PM EDT, Tue July 3, 2012 ... CERN expects to announce the higgs has been found today July 5 2012! reva
Granny says, "Well, guess whoever found it will win a Nobel prize... Higgs Boson Named Top Science Find of 2012 December 28, 2012 - Each year, editors at Science magazine compile a list of the years top achievements in science and technology.
stupid post. the hadron is and always has been a waste of manpower. They did not find any god partcle. Granny apparently, is ready for the old timers convelescence.
Bishadi wrote: They did not find any god partcle. Obviously you didn't read the post... For 2012, their top pick was the long-anticipated confirmation of the existence of the so-called "God particle," which is believed to be a building block of the universe. Science breakthough of 2012 The confirmation of the existence of a sub-atomic particle known as the Higgs boson was named breakthrough of the year by the prestigious Science magazine.
Prof. Higgs gets his credit & recognition... Peter Higgs: honour for physicist who proposed particle 28 December 2012 - Physicist Peter Higgs, after whom the Higgs boson particle is named, has been recognised in the New Year Honours.
Nobel prize is not worth crap anymore, he's better off with a Box of Clark Bars....Good news Granny, boy at $5.5 Billion that thing was a steal....
possum found it once but Granny made him give it back to ol' man Higgs... CERN chief firmer on 'God particle' Jan 26,`13 -- The world should know with certainty by the middle of this year whether a subatomic particle discovered by scientists is a long-sought Higgs boson, the head of the world's largest atom smasher said Saturday.
I have no doubt that there are MANY sub particles of which we have not yet proven... yet, because of their low mass they would not play much of a deviation in near field events and only might be relevant if they are part of what we don't yet understand yet only yet see via our extra-earth observatories.
